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Meeting Log - 2008-10-09



20:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's here?
20:00 < G> boo
20:00 < dgilmore> not I
20:00 < jcollie> hello
20:00 < mdomsch> barely
20:00  * ValHolla grabs a seat
20:00 < mmcgrath> G: boo?
20:01 < mmcgrath> its not halloween yet!
20:01 < G> mmcgrath: :)
20:01  * ivazquez is here for once
20:01 < mmcgrath> heh, lets look at the tickets.
20:01 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- The Dow is way down
20:01 -!- ValHolla [i=0c29727e gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d4aae136aecdd915] has quit Client Quit
20:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets
20:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6
20:02 -!- ValHolla [i=0c29727e gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8aa88275c5dc8cbb] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395
20:02 < mmcgrath> jcollie: ping
20:02 < jcollie> nothin' :)
20:02 < mmcgrath> heheh k
20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446
20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446
20:02 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ^^^
20:02  * f13 is here
20:03  * ValHolla sits back down
20:03 < kcadieux> hello
20:04 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr p4FDD213F dip0 t-ipconnect de] has joined #fedora-meeting
20:04  * ricky 
20:05 < jcollie> i thought we were going to close this one?
20:05 < mmcgrath> we'll skip that for now
20:05 < mmcgrath> I thought so too.
20:05  * mmcgrath also hasn't heard much on
20:05 < mmcgrath> .ticket 740
20:05 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #740 (Loaning out system time to OLPC participants) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740
20:05 < mmcgrath> ok so
20:06 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- App farm and new bapp servers
20:06 < mdomsch> yea!
20:06 < mmcgrath> Did anyone have any questions about how our new farm works, bapp, etc?
20:06 < mmcgrath> any comments?
20:06 -!- brothers [n=brothers 66-234-43-147 nyc cable nyct net] has joined #fedora-meeting
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20:06 < mdomsch> bapp* will be in phx
20:07 < mdomsch> we expect
20:07 < mmcgrath> likely
20:07 < mdomsch> ?
20:07 < mdomsch> good
20:07 < mmcgrath> There's still some jobs to move to bapp1, in particular the damned lies stuff
20:08 < mmcgrath> K, well if there's nothing else there..
20:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- telia1 and ibiblio1
20:08 < mmcgrath> We now have proxy servers in 4 locations.
20:09 < mmcgrath> 1 in germany, 3 in the states.
20:09 < mmcgrath> 5 proxy servers total (two of them are in PHX)
20:09 < mmcgrath> this will give us far more flexability during problems as well as distribute network load more evenly on release day.
20:09 < mmcgrath> it will also let us take a closer look at geoIP and DNS
20:09 < G> mmcgrath: what happens if WWI happens all over again? :)
20:10 < mmcgrath> we'll have to find an oil rig
20:10 < mmcgrath> or one of google's new cruise ships :)
20:10 < mmcgrath> At present, I'm thinking that 5 proxy servers more then suits our needs.
20:10 < G> sounds good, I thought maybe host a server in Iraq or something :)
20:11 < jcollie> G: i nominate anyone but me to go install that one
20:11 < mmcgrath> I'd like to focus on our caching policies and stuff.  But I don't see a need to add additional proxy servers at this time.  And if a new site comes up in asia, europe or south america, we may move one of our proxy servers there.
20:11 < G> mmcgrath: from an APAC view, I'd like to be bias and say, one somewhere out this way would be nice
20:11 < mmcgrath> G: yeah, that area could certainly use one
20:12 < jcollie> something in africa would be good too, but that'd be almost as fun as the iraq one
20:12 < mmcgrath> heh
20:12 < G> if we can get a site, Australia/New Zealand/Singapore/Japan or something we'd be covering all the regions
20:12 < mmcgrath> if there's nothing else there we'll move on :)
20:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Duke, planet, buildsys, people, torrent.
20:13 < jcollie> if fedora on olpc takes off there could be a lot if activity from africa
20:13 < G> isn't buildsys at SB now?
20:13 < mmcgrath> At this time the old buildsys and torrent boxes are no longer being used (hosted at duke)
20:13 < G> jcollie: true
20:13 < mmcgrath> G: it is.
20:13 < mmcgrath> seth is also working to move planet and people to a combined machine at Boston University.
20:13 < G> k, I was thinking I was going even more potty :)
20:13 < mmcgrath> this is for a couple of reasins, the primary one being that the hardware that people and planet is on right now are just woefully out of date.
20:13 < jcollie> are the systems at duke worth re-purposing?
20:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: not that we can use but, IIRC, they've already been taken care of.
20:14  * mmcgrath is almost afraid to know how old that torrent box is.
20:14 < mmcgrath> but new torrent is in ibiblio
20:14 < mmcgrath> buildsys is at SB
20:14 < G> mmcgrath: loan boxes to OLPC :)
20:14 < mmcgrath> heh
20:15 < mmcgrath> so thats just kind of a heads up.  I'm hoping to update our global map to reflect that soon as its completed.
20:15 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Puppet (sysctl)
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20:16 < mmcgrath> For those of you that aren't familiar we added sysctl support to puppet a couple days back.  I'm going to be making more change that as we go forward.
20:16 < mmcgrath> I'm also, very slowly, completing our conversion to module
20:16 < mmcgrath> s
20:16 < mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions on that?  or anything thats come up since puppet training?
20:17 < ricky> We should push for high quality modules that we can make public
20:17  * jcollie says modules good
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: yeah
20:17 < ricky> Some modules, like the haproxy one contain Fedora-specific configs, so we need to think about how to do that the "puppet" way
20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: well, even that module is useful.  Just takes someone to alter that file (which they'd have to do anyway for their environment)
20:18 < mmcgrath> it gets trickier if haproxy required something strange that was specific to Fedora
20:18 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else on that?
20:19 < mmcgrath> Ok, well thats really all I had this week.
20:19 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor
20:19 < mmcgrath> anyone have anything they'd like to discuss related to Infrastructure ?
20:19 < abadger1999> publictest machines.
20:19 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: sure, whats up?
20:20 < abadger1999> How many do we have up now?  Do we have resources to make more?
20:20 < abadger1999> Is there a SOP? :-)
20:20 < ricky> The new "rule" is that they just stay out of PHX, right?
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20:20 < mmcgrath> I think we just have one or two up, and we can make more at telia1 and ibiblio1
20:20 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: no SOP really, just the kickstart and dns SOP's are needed.
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20:21 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: do you want one?  I can walk you through making one if you have any questions, or I can just throw one together.
20:22 < abadger1999> mmcgrath: You shouuld probably walk me through making one.
20:22 < jcollie> do you have to be in -main to create a new PT system?
20:22 < G> jcollie: yep
20:22 < G> jcollie: shall we say "damn" together ? :P
20:22 < abadger1999> I think dmalcolm's rpmgrok and rnorwood's amber have yet to land somewhere post-incident.
20:22 < abadger1999> ricky: Am I right on that?
20:22 < G> abadger1999: thats my understanding...
20:22 < ricky> Yup.
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20:23 < G> abadger1999: + QA don't have anywhere for testopia/etc\
20:23 < G> to errr test anyway
20:23 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: I'd assume it had ended up on pt15.
20:24 < ricky> Haha, we all logged in at the same minute :-)
20:24 < abadger1999> heh :-)
20:25 < abadger1999> Hmm.... Okay, there's plenty of free memory there right now.
20:25 < abadger1999> I'll get those guys using it and you can walk me through creating a new pt instance if they outgrow it.
20:26 < mmcgrath> sure thing
20:26 < mmcgrath> Ok, well, we're only about a half hour in.  Does anyone else have anything to discuss?  if not we'll close the meeting early
20:26 < abadger1999> Cool.  That's all I have.
20:27  * G thinks
20:27 < ricky> Infrastructure contact info?  :-)
20:28 < G> wwoods says they can't use Testopia because of legal
20:28 < mmcgrath> ricky: I actually have that.  I'll email you after the meeting
20:28 < ricky> Coool
20:28 < G> wwoods: are you guys actually looking at any other options?
20:29 < ricky> Compose hosts stuff done?  Will F10 be made entirely on our infrastructure?  :-)
20:29 < wwoods> at the moment, no. dmalcolm was working on a new frontend that used the same database
20:29 < wwoods> but I haven't heard anything about that in a couple of months
20:29 < G> k, so I guess QA doesn't need a PT machine then
20:29 < wwoods> at the moment, no
20:30 < G> wwoods: I guess that means you guys want the QA wiki namespace?
20:30  * G recalls that as the alternative
20:31 < mmcgrath> well, if they do need one wwoods knows who to tell :)
20:31 < wwoods> too busy dealing with F10 release process stuff to mess with that now, but... exactly
20:31 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else to discuss?  If not I'll close the meeting in 30
20:31 < G> mmcgrath: nope
20:32 < mmcgrath> 15
20:32 < G> except git is a pain...
20:32 < mmcgrath> yes it is :)
20:32 < mmcgrath> 5
20:32 < G> I symlink the wrong update script and it goes haywire :)
20:32 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End

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