F7 redux, and the road to F8.

Thorsten Leemhuis fedora at leemhuis.info
Thu Jun 7 20:53:38 UTC 2007


On 07.06.2007 22:35, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:08:53PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>  > On 07.06.2007 21:17, Dave Jones wrote:
>  > > [...]
>  > > libata.
>  > > ~~~~~~~
>  > > Looking at the incoming bugs, this seems to be the biggest area
>  > > where we have problems.  No surprise really given the switchover
>  > > to new pata drivers.  Though there are quite a few SATA bugs too.
>  > > I'm not sure what more we can do here other than keep pointing
>  > > Jeff & Alan at them, and hoping for the best.
>  > > We knew this was going to be bumpy first time around, so hopefully
>  > > for F8 we'll have most of the kinks worked out here, and won't
>  > > have introduced (m)any new problems.
>  > 
>  > My 2 cent on this one: it might be a good idea to have test kernels for
>  > stuff like this that people can install on "Fedora (current)"; I for one
>  > would install them on some of my machines for testing purposes; I
>  > normally switch to rawhide only at test2 or test3.
> You mean something like "F7 kernel for F6" ?

Yes.

> The problem with that is the slew of userspace updates that would
> have been necessary.

Could be shipped in the same repo. Sure, one could just enable devel;
but suppose you need to build a module and you are out of luck if
rawhide gcc != Fedora (current()) gcc

>  The initrd changes alone were pretty extensive.
> I *still* get the creeps about changing /dev/hda -> /dev/sda in
> a yum update. It works for most people, but I've been burnt by it,
> and I know some users have.   For massive changes like that, it
> wouldn't really have helped much.  Booting the livecd and having
> a "yes, I can see my hard disks" report from users would have had
> more value I think than reports from hybrid FC6 w/F7 bits systems.

In this case: maybe; in other cases it might be something else.

>  > BTW, there is a lot of talk about the RHEL5 and the RL-kernel. See
>  > http://www.press.redhat.com/2007/06/05/emerging-technologies-developments-in-red-hat-enterprise-linux-realtime/
>  > I suppose we are waiting for the bits to go upstream?
> Yes.

k, was just wondering.

BTW, thanks for your work davej; much appreciated.

Cu
thl




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