F10 on Lenovo T61 issue

William Henry whenry at redhat.com
Fri Jun 5 22:49:19 UTC 2009 

This is useful! Thank you.

William


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From: Ray Ward <rayfward at sky.com>
To: Miguel Angel Perez <mangelp at gmail.com>
Cc: William Henry <whenry at redhat.com>; fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com 
<fedora-laptop-list at redhat.com>
Sent: Fri Jun 05 18:42:11 2009
Subject: Re: F10 on Lenovo T61 issue


You seem to be little short on recommendations  since you posted however 
individual recommendations are difficult to make.
A sort of works list might  be better.
Generally  Toshiba is a good start.
I have tried Linux Toshiba's and they generally work out of the box.
Fujitsu works as well and they host a user group that answers questions on 
Linux.  I my self have a li2727 that works well the only problem I had was 
turning  on the wifi adapter.

The general rule is the closer you get to the bleeding  edge the less likely 
it is to work with Linux. The upside the dusty today's  special might easily 
out perform the bosses super duper Vista machine (know this to be true my 
boss has fat Fujitsu and it's goes like a gazelle on Diazepam)

Good luck with your search
Any further questions you know where to ask.

Regards
Ray

On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 19:32 +0200, Miguel Angel Perez wrote:


Hi William,

Glad to know that things are finally working ^^, maybe when F11 gets out you 
could try it and see if it gives you some better support for compiz than 
F10. At least the kernel will be newer and then the hw support should be 
better too.

When thinking to purchase a new laptop a good place to start is : 
http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html

Then select the brand you will trust your money to and look at the latest 
supported models. Once you have selected a laptop take some days to google 
around looking for incompatibilities with linux or for unhappy owners of 
that model. You can also post the details here, with some look you will find 
someone that knows something about it :)



2009/6/4 William Henry <whenry at redhat.com>

Hi Miguel,

Just thought I'd give you an update. I've been running Fedora 10 for several 
weeks now with few problems.  I think the biggest issue was the video card 
in the lenovo and I will make sure that I look into video the next time I 
purchase a laptop. When I disable compiz many of the issues go away. It 
would be nice to have some of the compiz features but under the current 
hardware it seems T61/Fedora 10 with compiz is not an option.  (I just see 
memory creep and CPU utilization crawl upwards to where it's not usable and 
then crashes.)

But I'm now using F10 on my T61 in a fairly stable way for several weeks.

If anyone can give me a recommendation for a good laptop spec. for my next 
purchase please let me know. Thanks.

Best,
William





----- "Miguel Angel Perez" <mangelp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>

> 2009/3/1 William Henry <whenry at redhat.com>
>

>

>
> ----- "Miguel Angel Perez" <mangelp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >

>

> > 2009/2/27 William Henry <whenry at redhat.com>
> >


Hi,
> >
> > I've seen others have this problem and I've seen a BZ regarding it. Its 
> > the "mouse still moves but can't do anything with the keyboard or mouse 
> > input' problem. Requires a hardware reboot.
> >
> > I've given up on Fedora for a while until I see this fixed. I don't have 
> > time for multiple reboots a day and the risk of losing data.
> >
> > I've also seen issues with NetworkManager.

>
> > Make sure there are bug reports filled.
> >
>
>

WH: I've seen this bug already reported.
>

>



> >
> > I'm sadly disappointed with F10.

>
> > I'm sorry you are dissapointed with Fedora and sad because your 
> > propietary stuff doesn't work on it. Fedora as a distro doesn't have 
> > nothing to do with such complains as they happen due a lack of proper 
> > driver implementation as some companies still refuses to support linux 
> > or because a software component is not working properly. In both cases 
> > Fedora doesn't directly develop the drivers or the components that 
> > doesn't work and you should get your complain to the upstream projects 
> > so they can fix it sometime or fill a bug report to Fedora so they can 
> > report upstream and apply patches as the come in.
>
>

WH: Huh? proprietary stuff?? No idea what you are talking about unless you 
mean the hardware.


> Yes i was talking about the hardware. Having proper support for all brand 
> new hw is quite difficult if the hw vendor doesn't support linux.
>

>

>


>

>
> >
> > If you feel that other modern distros works better where Fedora fails 
> > you should check them but we all use the same linux kernel and same 
> > X.org so lack of hardware support is a common pain.
>
>

WH: I'm running RHEL which is more stable.  But I like to do other work on 
Fedora and was hoping Fedora 10 was more stable. I realize there are a lot 
of different hardware platforms out there and it is difficult to support. 
I'm a bit surpprised because there are so many Lenova T6x around I thought 
that it would have been tested more and there more stable.
>


> I don't know how many hardware platforms they have to test new releases 
> but i'm pretty sure that the real testing is done when a new release comes 
> out and we upgrade Fedora to the next version. A lot of things can happen 
> then.
>

>

>


> TBW this seemed to get worse the last few weeks so I wonder if some of my 
> updates made the issue much more frequent.
>


> They must be fighting the bugs :), but still is too soon to have them 
> fixed. I've run in a lot of problems with NetworkManager with F9 and F10 
> that only got solved after the hw driver got properly fixed (intel wifi 
> driver).
>

>

>


> Best,
> William
>
> >

>



> >
> > Regards,
> > William
> >
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> >

> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Miguel Ángel Pérez
> >
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> -- 
> Regards,
> Miguel Ángel Pérez
>




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