[Fedora-legal-list] Re: 2xSai has an unclear license and may be removed from a number of programs in Fedora Linux

Tue Oct 13 22:35:24 UTC 2009

To whomever it may concern,

Given the confusion (see mail history) on some license issue I wrote some time ago. 

I hereby release all versions of 2xSai, old and new, under the GNU General Public License, version 2 or (at your option) any later version.

I did in fact give the ZSNES and probably some other projects permission a long time ago (don't remember exactly when, but probably when it was either first featured or it went from closed source -> GPL), but I guess it wasn't documented as such in the history.

For future reference you probably can ping me.

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--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: 2xSai has an unclear license and may be removed from a number of  programs in Fedora Linux
> To: "Derek Liauw" <derekl666 at yahoo.com>, "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derek-liauw at usa.net>, "Robert J. Ohannessian" <voidstar at ifrance.com>
> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:00 AM
> Thanks for your reply Derek.
> 
> 1.
> 
> What's your new email address?
> 
I don't check this e-mail often but it's still "in use". Now if yahoo had a forward feature I would use it, but alas...

> 2.
> 
> It would be very helpful if I could write to that email
> address and CC
> a public mailing list.  This might cause you to get
> more email about
> 2xSaI.  [ You don't have to reply to all the emails;
> if need be, you
> can just reply with the three words "Sorry, I'm busy". :)
> ]  May I
> please do that CC'ing, even though your new email address
> will then
> become public?
> 
> 3.
> 
> Can I forward emails we have sent to each other to public
> mailing
> lists or forums?
> 
> 4.
> 
> I looked for a public Snes9x source repository but its repo
> is
> actually nonpublic, and Snes9x is under a "non-commercial
> use only"
> freeware license.[1]  In zsnes's public repo 2xsai.cpp
> is there[2] in
> the "deleted files" section of /src/video, but there's no
> comment,
> even in the revision log[3], that you gave this
> permission.  So I fear
> that people will incorrectly think ZSNES relicensed your
> code without
> your permission.  Plus, there are multiple versions of
> 2xSaI floating
> around.
> 
> Considering both these points, I think the best thing to do
> is to
> reply to this message with a permission notice. 
> Please CC it to a
> public mailing list like fedora-legal-list at redhat.com
> or
> debian-legal at lists.debian.org. 
> Either one is fine, but pick only one.
>  Pick according to your distro preference, or pick
> fedora-legal-list
> if you don't care.  Write the words "I hereby release
> all versions of
> 2xSai, old and new, under the GNU General Public License,
> version 2 or
> (at your option) any later version".
> 
> Kind regards,
> -Jason
> 
> ^  [1].  http://www.snes9x.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=4334
> ^  [2].  http://zsnes.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zsnes/zsnes/src/video/?hideattic=0
> ^  [3].  http://zsnes.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/zsnes/zsnes/src/video/2xsai.cpp?hideattic=0&view=log
> 
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Derek Liauw <derekl666 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Wow,
> >
> > It's been at least 11 years since I wrote the code and
> at least 7 years since
> > I checked this e-mail lol... So just saw this
> (somewhat old) by chance. So
> > hope this still helps.
> >
> > To be honest I don't care what happens to the code
> anymore?
> >
> > Whatever .zip file is around is probably from my old
> xoom/usa.net website.
> >
> > If I remember correctly I agreed that newer versions
> of the code could be
> > released under GPL with ZSNES a long time ago (which I
> integrated and agreed
> > with the original author "_zsKnight").
> >
> > And yes I probably neglected to update all
> pre-existing files/my abandoned
> > website and such.
> >
> > My bad, but 1. I don't think my website exists
> anymore.  2. If it does exist
> > I probably don't know how to update it and the .zip
> distro.  3. I haven't
> > felt like making a new website for quite a while :P 4.
> I consider ZSNES or
> > the Snes9x projects as the new "source" of the
> file(s), since those are newer
> > versions / I more or less integrated them there, and I
> assume the files
> > source files already have a GPL license. (my memory
> isn't that great).
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Jason A. Spiro <jasonspiro4 at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: 2xSaI has an unclear license and may be
> removed from a number of  programs in Fedora Linux
> >> To: "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derek-liauw at usa.net>,
> "Derek Liauw Kie Fa" <derekl666 at yahoo.com>,
> "Robert J. Ohannessian" <voidstar at ifrance.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 11:06 PM
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Derek's website[1] has a downloadable copy of
> 2xSaI
> >> available for
> >> download.  The text of the website says "GPL",
> but the
> >> readme file
> >> says something contradictory:
> >>
> >> 2xSaI Utility v0.7        Copyright (c)
> >> Derek Liauw Kie Fa, 1999
> >> Comments, Suggestions, Questions, Bugs etc.: derek-liauw at usa.net
> >> http://members.xoom.com/derek_liauw/
> >> This program is free for non-commercial use.
> >>
> >> Is the program GPLed (which means it is free to
> sell,
> >> modify, and
> >> more), or is it merely free for non-commercial
> use?
> >> If it is GPLed,
> >> then Derek, could you please update the zipfile to
> say so,
> >> and email
> >> me the updated file?
> >>
> >> If you do not answer, then Fedora Linux may have
> to rip out
> >> 2xSaI from
> >> many programs included on the Fedora DVD.  This
> will
> >> be a lot of work,
> >> and will make those programs worse.  :)  This
> is
> >> because Fedora does
> >> not allow software which is only free for
> non-commercial
> >> use on their
> >> DVD.  They require that the DVD be allowed to be
> >> sold.
> >>
> >> Note that I don't represent or volunteer for
> Fedora.
> >> I am just
> >> telling you their policies.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> -Jason Spiro
> >>
> >> ^  [1].  http://web.archive.org/elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~dalikifa/
> 