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RE: Fedora and the System Administrator

While it may appear that Red Hat's decision to drop those of us in the
gap was an oversight, I am sure that management there gave it great
thought.  Our town went thru almost a transformation with masses of
mergers and businesses changing the way they do business.  In many
cases, I had a relationship with someone in management or someone who
did.  In each case the management of those businesses weighed the affect
it would have on their customer base.  Many times I heard where the
business expected to lose 15% of their business, or 25% of their
customers or 10% of their profits due to the changes.  But they also
estimated a time of recovery and a level of growth over a 5 year period
that would put them in a much better market position then compared to
what they would have if they didn't make the changes.  

I don't think Red Hat made this decision without considering both the
costs and the benefits.  They would have to be total idiots to realize
that they left this gap (in which I reside).  Just like some of the
decisions made by local businesses here, Red Hat will most probably lose
me as a customer, not in protest or in anger, but because it would be a
bad business decision for me to stick with them at this time.  

Many of you have been loyal to Red Hat and yet you are now without.  But
where should Red Hat place their focus?  If more than 50% of their
customer base provides less than 50% of their income, they should turn
their attention towards the market of the lesser percent customer base
and larger percent income (probably profit is a better word here.)  I
have no doubt that is what they have done.  Those of us Gap-ites just
need to seek an alternative solution to our problems.  It's not like we
have a lot of choice here.

Note to Peter Boy:  Sorry, this started out as a friendly comment to the
remark about "the gap does really existst" and it turned into a vent.
Don't take it personal or be upset.  


-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-list-admin redhat com [mailto:fedora-list-admin redhat com]
On Behalf Of Peter Boy
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:21 AM
To: fedora-list redhat com
Subject: Re: Fedora and the System Administrator

Am Fre, 2003-10-03 um 03.43 schrieb Bill Anderson:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 19:34, Miguel M wrote:
> > Erik Williamson wrote 2003-10-02
> > 
> > >I inquired about what would happen if one was to (after one year) 
> > >simply
> > >get the SRPMS that are released as updates, compile and
redistribute to 
> > >existing machines... but that's a no-no.
> > 
> > And what would happen if (after one year) one downloads
> > the update SRPMS to existing machines and compiles independently the

> > same packages in everyone of them?

I'm a little bit puzzled about that long lasting discussion here. The
GPL is intended to protect freedom of information about software and
software technologies, it is intended to protect free access to those
technologies. But the GPL is not intended to protect someone, who lets
others work hard and spend a lot of money (here: RH's enterprise
version), picking up that work for his own profit only. The GPL may not
forbid such an behaviour (in favour to protect freedom) but it's not the
intended course of action in general.

And that discussion will not resolve the causes for this discussion.
Nobody would discuss recompiling and redistribution of the RHEL SRPMS to
that extent if there wouldn't be that gap between Fedora and the
enterprise line (in terms of period of time for maintenance, stability
and time) which lets small and medium businisses staying in the dust (or
at least they feel so). Maybe the discussion is needed to convince
people at Red Hat that the gap does really existst.


> It doesn't matter either way. The SRPMS are covered by the GPL. The 
> SRPMS are available on the ftpsite. The RHN/Service you pay for is 
> support service and access to *binaries* of the updates. There is 
> nothing RH can do if you download a SRPM of a GPLed program and then 
> put it on other machines, built or not.

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