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Re: Fedora and the System Administrator -- are my assumptionsonSuSE incorrect?

BruceG wrote:
On Saturday 04 October 2003 10:43, Buck wrote:

Thanks, Ed,

Yes, we are the same age, but I am brand new to Linux.  I first started
to get into Linux about a year ago.  I had a spare computer and wanted
to learn it and use it.  I read the reviews, checked out the local book
stores, read the websites of what must have been a dozen or more brands
and then looked at the list serves available.  Probably every version
has both Yahoo and MSN groups support but when I tried them I became
overwhelmed with spam, so I had to rule that out as an option. I
monitored three list servs lists and checked out the release frequency
and availability of maintenance support.  It became a toss up between
Red Hat and SuSE at that time.  Red Hat won because of the availability
of resources including the books at the book stores, these list serve
lists and the availability of ISOs on the internet.


-----Original Message-----
From: fedora-list-admin redhat com [mailto:fedora-list-admin redhat com]
On Behalf Of Edward Croft
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:17 AM
To: fedora-list redhat com
Subject: RE: Fedora and the System Administrator -- are my assumptions
onSuSE incorrect?

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:45, Buck wrote:

For those of you who like to keep fresh blood on your hands, Fedora
might be better.  In this field, I am probably the old man (45) and I
don't care to see blood too long, especially if its my own.


Good luck


First off, we are the old men, (also 45, just last week), but I always
liked bleeding edge. I was all over linux when I first learned of it.
The first shrink wrapped was RHL 6.2. I also bought Suse, Caldera, and
Turbo linux to try them all, but came back to RHL. I liked playing
Tetris while Caldera loaded. I liked Suse somewhat, but it just missed
for me, Turbo Linux was out there somewhere, but it was Red Hat that I
settled on, and eventually embraced and became a RHCE. I know that you
can buy RHEL and still have Red Hat, but it just isn't RHL as we knew
it. Fedora may be a great project, but it isn't RHL. It isn't Red Hat.
That is the only reason that I stated that I will have to evaluate Suse,
Mandrake, et al, along with Fedora. Ed

Sounds like we have a couple of old men, lol. I'm 45 as well, with 46 staring me in the eyes (in November). Buck - if you have a LUG near you, ask for help in installing SuSE via FTP. I did, and got it running. I ended up purchasing the Personal version for the CD's and the manual (a good user's manual helps in a lot of small areas). I like SuSE, but it isn't doing it for me - so I'm looking around. Another alternative is to try out the SuSE newsgroup. A third alternative is to download the SuSE Live Evaluation CD to see if you like it. If so, then it might be worth purchasing it.

I also tried Mandrake. That installed easily and worked well - but I got upgade and install happy. Quickly broke it by pointing to different sources for RPM's, installing some packages via urpmi (and the gui grpmi), installed others via command line rpm, and still other via CVS. Oh yeah, built a few of my own RPMs, too. Not well, kind of messy - not about to do that again any time soon. You can mess up a system pretty quickly!

Oh yeah, I'm working on a printserver using Debian Woody. That seems a good fit for a 16Meg RAM, 1 Gig harddisk, 100Mhz machine. No GUI, just plain command line screen (and remote access via ssh). It's up and running, but I have more work to do.

To bring this back to the subjkect of this mailing list, I'm very interested in Fedora, and think it can fill a need. I like that it is based on Consumer's version of Red Hat. I also like that you can use apt for keeping up to date. Think I need another PC to mess with Fedora - it's my gut feeling that I will move from SuSE (and Mandrake) and possibly Debian to Fedora. I also think it will fit in well at the church I do volunteer LAN work for. I'm holding off for now, but plan on installing as soon as it goes GA. If I had a PC for breaking/fixing - then I would install Fedora now to get a feel for it.

Only 42 here, I feel frisky!

New to the Fedora list, not new to Red Hat. Have tried SuSE and Slackware and Red Hat/Sparc. Nothing wrong with SuSE but I'm not sure they give you anything that Red Hat doesn't. Maybe a little bit better on the engineering, less on the documentation and options.

I'm looking at side work using linux for small businesses and churches and such. Still not sure where my recommendations are between RHEL and Fedora, but isn't RH9 going away?

Hmm... not much of an introduction, how's this: I loaded Fedora 'cause I had planned on it "someday soon" which became "today" when I was groggy and confused doing fdisk in one place and writing a boot disk in another. If you use "dd" for a floppy, the "of" should *not* be /dev/hda.........

been there,
done that,
wrote a recovery procedure.

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