Boot Issues with FC2
Lonnie Santella
lonniesantella at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 23 00:32:05 UTC 2004
Okay - so I have something to start with - thank you very much. Fdisk
displayed 38792 cylinders, when it should be 16,383 cylinders. Now my next
problem is: where do I declare that with Fedora? When I choose to manual
configure disk with Disk Druid - there's now place to edit the CHS values.
How do I accomplish this?
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>Lonnie Santella wrote:
>
>>Can someone please take a shot at this? seems like a fundamental problem,
>>but I've exhausted all my resources. All support docs seem to suggest the
>>same thing, which doesn't work: directories relative to /boot.
>>
>>Bottom line is, Red Hat 9.0 installs fine on same machine - but FC2 always
>>produces the same problem (below).
>>
>>Here?s a quick review of my environment:
>>
>>(1) Always a COMPLETELY clean install ? using Drive Image utility to erase
>>all partitions and restore MBR.
>>
>>(2) Two machines, both Asus P4 clones with 1 GB RAM, and 1 Western Digital
>>20 GB hard drive each.
>>
>>(3) Both machines have subsequently loaded Redhat 9.0 and ran flawlessly ?
>>no problems at all.
>>
>>(4) I have two different ISO image CD?s from two different mirrors ? both
>>with verified MD5Sum?s and both producing the exact same problem each
>>time.
>>
>>So I?ve been trying to install FC2 ? I?ve just finished my 11th attempt.
>>Following the advice of different threads and release notes, I always go
>>back to a fresh install before trying anything new.
>>
>>To minimize variables, I keep the install as simple as possible. I choose
>>?Automatic Partition?, which creates a 100MB /boot on hda1, a 17GB ?/?
>>(root) on hda2, and a 2GB swap on hda3. I also choose a ?minimal? install
>>to eliminate possible variables from the other CD?s ? this way I only have
>>to use CD1.
>
>Try doing a manual partition. Also verify that the bios is set to lba for
>these drives and that fdisk shows the correct lba CHS parameters for the
>drives.
>
>
>>
>>Each time, the install itself is flawless. But after the first reboot ?
>>and naturally each time thereafter, immediately following the POST, I get
>>a black screen with the word ?GRUB? in the upper left corner. No response
>>to keyboard strokes or mouse movement at that point.
>>
>>I have to rule out hardware ? since this problem with FC2, I have
>>successfully installed and ran RedHat 9.0 and FreeBSD 4.10. I always use a
>>tried and true utility to erase the hard drives of all partitions and
>>restore MBR before installing anything new. This guarantees a pristine
>>physical drive during the install.
>>
>>I compared the grub.conf files on each machine after the FC2 install. They
>>are identical. No big surprise there I guess. Then, just for further
>>comparison, I isolated one machine and wiped it clean, and loaded RedHat
>>9.0. Then I compared it?s grub.conf to that of the FC2 install. Almost
>>identical except for the ?/? (root) and swap partitions. In each case the
>>/boot partition is always the first (hda1). In FC2, the ?/? root partition
>>is the second one (hda2) followed but the swap on hda3. But in RedHat 9.0,
>>the swap is on hda2, followed by the / root on hda3. No big deal there,
>>the grub.conf files compensate for this but looking to hda2 on FC2 and
>>hda3 on RedHat 9.0 as one would expect.
>>
>>Both grub.conf files from FC2 and RedHat 9.0 list an entry as follows:
>>
>>Root (hd0,0)
>>
>>? I?m not sure if having different root partitions should affect this or
>>not, but it?s the same in both OS?s.
>>
>>One other thing I thought was odd is that on both machines, the standard
>>FC2 install puts a strange format or partition table on the physical
>>drive; so much so that it takes a few extreme steps to wipe the partition
>>info off the drive. Normally I would just use the ?delete? function of the
>>utility, which works for all the RedHat dirstros and FreeBSD ? but in FC2
>>it generates and error stating that it can?t delete the partition. I have
>>to use a utility called ?bigfdisk? then put a dos partition on it, then
>>delete the dos partition ? to get everything set back to a completely
>>empty hard drive.
>
>This is the clue that you may need to check the CHS values and do a manual
>partiton
>
>I suspect you are seeing the bug related to some mobo/bios and the lba
>parameters with the 2.6 kernel and partitoning.
>
>My MSI mobo had this problem and after I manually set the CHS parameters on
>the disk it worked perfectly.
>
>I thought I had the link to the fix for this bookmarked but I can't find it
>right now.
>
>Maybe someone can repost the link here.
>
>>
>>I?d really like to give FC2 a test run ? been looking forward to it. I?ve
>>read the release notes, and browsed for two solid days through news
>>threads and docs. I?m stuck, could you please help me out here?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Lonnie
>>
>>
>>
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