sbcglobal

Mike Burger mburger at bubbanfriends.org
Tue Oct 12 05:27:13 UTC 2004


On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Phillip T. George wrote:

> 
> Mike Burger wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Phillip T. George wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>>>Unless you're using busness services from SBCGlobal or have a router, 
> >>>>then you're going to have to set up PPPOE.  I'm not sure what the steps 
> >>>>are for this, but someone else on the list may know.
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Even with business class service (DSL, that is), current/new accounts need 
> >>>to use PPPoE.  They stopped allocating via straight DHCP quite some time 
> >>>ago (I'm using a business class SBC DSL account, and I work for SBC).
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>OUCH.  Personally I prefer Cox cable.  DSL seems to suck, especially 
> >>when its PPPOE.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I'm going to have to disagree, somewhat.  I don't have to share my 
> >bandwidth with the others in the surrounding neighborhoods, and I haven't 
> >lost my DSL connection yet, which I can't say with my previous cable 
> >connection.  In addition, I've got multiple IPs, and because my DSL 
> >modem/router (Netopia Cayman unit) is handling the authentication for 
> >PPPoE, I don't have to worry about whether or not my firewall computer is 
> >keeping up with the connection.
> >
> Mike,
> Where are you located?  Also, have you even tried cable--that whole 
> sharing neighborhood thing is usually a load of crap.  Around here they 
> give out 4Mbps standard...they recently decided to upgrade.  My 
> bandwidth has never suffered, unless I'm connecting to a slow site (in 
> which case, I make sure its not my bandwidth, by checking another site).


I'm in Fishers, Indiana.  I've used cable (Insight Broadband), here, prior 
to going with DSL, and I used it back in Bucks County, PA (Comcast), and 
let's face it...it's not crap.  Cable internet is, essentially, no 
different than being on an ethernet hub.  I can't speak for the area in 
which you live, but I know, for a fact, that there are at least three (one 
of which is absolutely gihugic) neighborhoods sharing our cable internet 
segment.  Throughput wasn't horrible, here, where they were giving us 3meg 
down (and only 128k up), but I couldn't, legally, run my web/mail server, 
and had only one IP, which could/would change periodically.  Back in PA, 
where the population was a good deal more concentrated, the internet 
connections frequently slowed.

As I said, I'm using business class DSL, and for a reason.  Primarily 
because I get better upstream bandwidth, multiple IPs, and the ability to 
run whichever services I want.

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