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Andrea Giuliano
a.giuliano at iccu.sbn.it
Tue Sep 7 07:57:17 UTC 2004
Dear Paul,
thanks for the source of the fredex's message. It made possible to me to
see with my very eyes that some process along the way from our local
mail server to my client is removing PGP signatures at least from
messages coming from fedora-list. I'll investigate the same issue for
other lists and general mail.
In more details, the same message appears to me (I mean I looked at the
full source, even with vi to be sure) without PGP part. Many other
headers are different, but I know the reason why for most of them.
Below, between dashed lines is the full source of the same message.
Please note the message id, it's definitely the same message.
Best regards, and thanks again a lot.
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Subject: Re: How do I Maintain hard disk health
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On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:47:26AM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> Well, there's SMARTD. I haven't used it. I'm thinking about starting
> though.
>
> It used to be that IDE hard drive failures were a rarity. In the last
> couple of months or so, I've seen 3 drives die. One was a couple months
> old. (hitachi deskstar 61GB) The other two were 2 years old.
> Interestingly, they were both Western Digital 20GB drives in a hardware
> raid1 configuration. They failed within a couple of weeks of each
> other. They both show to be dead even when put into a totally different
> machine, and new drives in the original machine fixed the problems, so I
> don't think its a controller issue.
>
> In my own personal machines, I have always used Maxtors and never had a
> single failure, though.
>
> Anyone having similar experiences?
We've got a bunch of maxtors around here, and there are also a bunch
at work. So far this year I've seen 4 or 5 of 'em die within the 3-year
warranty (note that their warranty is now 1 year on most drives), though
there are several more approaching 3 years that are still humming along.
>
> On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:34 -0700, Michael Marsh wrote:
> > Help!
> >
> > I run fedora as a samba server and have just recovered from my second
> > hard disk crash in only 8 months. Is there a way that i can monitor
> > and fix hard disk health between disasters?
> >
>
>
>
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---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -----------------------------
"And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
------------------------------- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ------------------------------
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Paul Howarth wrote:
> Andrea Giuliano wrote:
>
>> I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2, and I don't see GPG signatures in most of
>> the posts I checked. For instance, all posts from Alexander Dalloz
>> don't appear to have a GPG signature. I've also look at the full
>> source of the messages, but I couldn't find a signature.
>>
>> Let's take an actual example: look at the only one "Re: Changing
>> Console Resolution!" by Alexander and the only one "Re: How do I
>> Maintain hard disk healthI" by fredex.
>
>
> Here's the raw message for that posting as it arrived at my server:
>
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> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 10:47:26AM -0500, Steve Bergman wrote:
> > Well, there's SMARTD. I haven't used it. I'm thinking about starting
> > though. =20
> >=20
> > It used to be that IDE hard drive failures were a rarity. In the last
> > couple of months or so, I've seen 3 drives die. One was a couple
> months
> > old. (hitachi deskstar 61GB) The other two were 2 years old.
> > Interestingly, they were both Western Digital 20GB drives in a hardware
> > raid1 configuration. They failed within a couple of weeks of each
> > other. They both show to be dead even when put into a totally
> different
> > machine, and new drives in the original machine fixed the problems,
> so I
> > don't think its a controller issue.
> >=20
> > In my own personal machines, I have always used Maxtors and never had a
> > single failure, though.
> >=20
> > Anyone having similar experiences?
>
>
> We've got a bunch of maxtors around here, and there are also a bunch
> at work. So far this year I've seen 4 or 5 of 'em die within the 3-year
> warranty (note that their warranty is now 1 year on most drives), though
> there are several more approaching 3 years that are still humming along.
>
>
> >=20
> > On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:34 -0700, Michael Marsh wrote:
> > > Help!
> > >=20
> > > I run fedora as a samba server and have just recovered from my second
> > > hard disk crash in only 8 months. Is there a way that i can monitor
> > > and fix hard disk health between disasters? > >=20 >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --=20
> > fedora-list mailing list
> > fedora-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
>
>
> --=20
> ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us
> --------------------------=
> ---
> "And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting
> Fathe=
> r,
> Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no
> end. =
> He=20
> will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and
> uphold=
> ing
> it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
> ------------------------------- Isaiah 9:7 (niv)
> --------------------------=
> ----
>
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>
>
> > I don't see a
> signature there, even looking at
>
>> the sources. If you see a signature there instead, something here is
>> going wrong, from my glasses down to our mail server...
>>
>> Really hope it's not my glasses' fault, I changed them last week!!!
>
>
> Perhaps there's still time to get the glasses replaced? ;-)
>
> Cheers, Paul.
>
>
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