nvidia or ati ?

[Joel Jaeggli]

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Kahn Seidl wrote:

> here is the low down with ati vs. nvidia in linux
>
> ati doesnt care about linux, there drivers horrible.

It's not that they don't care, their execution is a little lacking. If 
they didn't care their wouldn't be a proprietary driver. That was the case 
before the radeon 8500.

If you're willing to use a radeon 9000/9200/9250 you can a decent 
non-proprietary open-gl support. It won't be adequate for high-end games 
becuase it can't among other things  support s3-texture compression, but 
it works, and it's non-proprietary.

> in the time before last release drivers, a geforce 5700 would beat a 9800 by 
> a sizable margin.

In windows-land driver quality has been an issue that has dogged both 
vendors at various times. if enough people use the linux driver it's 
liekly that they'll spend more cycles on it. As it is they view the market 
as rather small, and spend most of their time supporting their workstation 
cards and applications, as those customers are the most valueable.

> nvidias drivers are much better and perfom much better.  the new ati drivers 
> improve the situation, but, it is still crappy compared to nvidia.

It is yes. Most of our boxes save the one that actually needs opengl that 
have nividia cards we use the x.org driver. in the recent past we've been 
buying all the laptops with intel graphics, because frankly the hassle of 
dealing with propietary drivers when you also want the thing to sleep is 
just to much work. Yes it's slower and not adequate for high-end gaming, 
but it works out of the box.

name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2

...

OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915GM 20050225 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.3.2




> martin
>
>
>> From: Richard Gelling <uselinux34 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
>> To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list at redhat.com>
>> Subject: Re: nvidia or ati ?
>> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:29:23 +0100
>> 
>> On Sun, 2005-10-23 at 11:09 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 16:29:39 +0200,
>> >   Rakotomandimby Mihamina <mihamina.rakotomandimby at etu.univ-orleans.fr> 
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > I am going ti buy a brand new computer, and would like to know if it is
>> > > better either to have a nVidia or an ATI graphic card.
>> >
>> > If you were think of getting a less expensive card, the ATI 9200 will 
>> work
>> > with free drivers. There is a project to have free drivers for later ATI
>> > cards, but you should go looking for the current status of that project
>> > to make sure it is far enough along for you before committing to using a
>> > ATI model.
>> >
>> 
>> I have found the Nvidia 3D drivers easier to install
>> 
>> 
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