yum dumb? Re-installes rpms you specifically remove

[Arthur Pemberton]

On 7/4/06, Jeff Vian <jvian10 at charter.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 23:28 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > On 7/2/06, Paul Johnson <pauljohn32 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My Dell laptop hates the new kernel-2.6.17, so I remove it with yum
> > > remove kernel-2.6....
> >
> > Okay.
> >
> > >
> > > Then I go about my business and find that the yum cron job has run and
> > > re-downloaded and re-installed that kernel.  Goddam.
> >
> > What else would you expect ?
> >
> > >
> > > Then I can put exclude=kernel-2.6.17* in /etc/yum.conf, but the
> > > problem just starts there.  When yum runs, it finds updates for kernel
> > > modules on atrpms (for ipw3945 wireless) and livna (video card), and
> > > yum then fails because it cannot install those modules because it
> > > cannot install the new kernel.  So I have to go back into
> > > /etc/yum.conf and exclude some specific versions of those modules.
> > >
> >
> > That's exactly what it should do. You should just exclude al kernel
> > related packages, or let yum be and use grub to boot to the kernel
> > that works for you,
> >
> Or alternatively, do not use the auto update feature of yum/fedora.
>
> I do all my updates about once a week manually and I can see when it is
> trying to do something I don't want and take action *before* the update
> occurs.  I believe many do that to avoid the situation described here.
>
> > > What a hassle.
> > >
> > > Seems to me that if a person manually removes something in yum, the
> > > system should respect that.
> >
> > That would require special rules, and I would not consider such rules
> > to be intuitive.
>
> The rules may not be intuitive, but it is reasonable to expect that when
> one package is excluded yum should automatically exclude things which
> depend on that package.  I would think it should be fairly simple to add
> a change in handling, since yum already has a list of the 'depends on'
> items for each package (or otherwise it could not locate and install the
> needed dependencies.)
> At the present it cannot do that. In the future it should be able to at
> least present a list of packages that are blocked like this and ask what
> to do (install, ignore, etc.).

Fair enough, but that still would not work for the OP's case due to
the reliance on the yum service.

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