Nvidia sucks, sucks, sucks !

[Mike McCarty]

Ed Greshko wrote:
> Mike McCarty wrote:
> 
> 
>>I have found that any time I bring up a way in which Linux,
>>or Fedora Core in particular, could benefit from easier install/
>>modification/you name it, especially since the OTHER OS already
>>supports such, I get flames more or less like what you experience
>>here.
> 
> 
> I could see that happening on this list.  Remember, it is a "users" list.

I've seen it happen on *all* the "user" lists associated with Linux.

> There are other lists that may be more useful when bringing up certain
> suggestions.  Like, for example, Fedora-config-list for the Discussions
> about configuration tool development.
> 
> Note, my use of the word "suggestion" and not "criticism".
> 
> Being "critical" of another's work or starting a thread with a phrase such

I wasn't using the term "criticism" in a negative sense. Sorry if I
didn't make that clear.

> as "sucks, sucks, sucks" is already setting a combative tone.  FWIW, many of

I agree with this statement that the tone was combative, rather
than helpful. (At least from my viewpoint.) In any case, I think
that when a user has a complaint, then it needs to be taken as
an opportunity to do some reflection whether something might not
be done a little better.

> these protracted threads start out generally peaceful.  It seems that
> somewhere along the way someone inserts a personal attack, be it intended or
> not, and it spirals down from there.

Yes, it seems so.

>>Criticism, however well-intentioned, however spot-on, however helpful
>>it might be, is not something easily condoned by people for whom an
>>operating system is nearly a religion.
>>
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> .
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>>If another OS does some things better, then the Linux and GNU crowd
>>should take that as an opportunity to review, and see whether some
>>lesson couldn't be learned, rather than as an opportunity to express
>>disdain for anything not of the pale.
> 
> 
> It may be helpful if we all remember that words such as "better", and
> "spot-on" are subjective terms.

Yes. And the word "however" which I used above indicates that some
may be more, and some may be less.

> It may also be be helpful to understand that some suggestions to an
> application, process, kernel, or whatever may not be as easy to accomplish
> as stating the goal.  I venture to say that quite a few folks have written
> some application/code and then found they've painted themselves into a
> corner and the only avenue of escape is a total re-write.

Certainly so. And in such cases breaking backward compatibility is
sometimes a painful choice. BUT, currently, there is no published,
well-documented, and supported driver interface for Linux, is there?

> But, my dream did not come true.  I went back to sleep with the hopes that
> this thread would die.  However, as always, it would take restraint on the
> part of some, and resignation on the part of others.

Are you resigning? :-)

Mike
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