Hard Drive Error Disk or Motherboard?

Tue Nov 21 22:26:07 UTC 2006

Just got home ffrom work and thought I'd check over my server.

I noticed in the messages I am still getting errors.

The /dev/hdc disk is the one that I was having trouble with however I
am getting errors on another disk I was using for backing up the data
from the faulty drive to.

Nov 21 16:32:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 16:32:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Offline
uncorrectable sectors
Nov 21 17:02:16 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdc, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 17:02:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Currently
unreadable (pending) sectors
Nov 21 17:02:17 test-fc6 smartd[2484]: Device: /dev/hdd, 1 Offline
uncorrectable sectors
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3 FS on hdc2, internal journal
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: hdc2: 5 orphan inodes deleted
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: recovery complete.
Nov 21 17:11:44 test-fc6 kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with
ordered data mode.

Can anyone explain a way totest these disk so I can be sure they are
not corrupt.

Should I use fsck or testdisk? Also what syntax would provide best
results, or are there any better utils?

On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 15:00, Paul Ward wrote:
> >I did a bios reset this morning to try and iron out any strange
> >settings but as suspected it made no difference.
> >
> >Here is the lspci list in my box
> >
> >lspci
> >00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo
> > KT266/A/333] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7
> > [Apollo KT266/A/333 AGP] 00:06.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant
> > CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
> >00:06.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
> >Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
> >00:06.4 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and
> >Audio Decoder [IR Port] (rev 05)
> >00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev
> > 05) 00:08.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port
> > (rev 05) 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX
> >[Cyclone] (rev 30)
> >00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
> >Controller (rev 80)
> >00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
> >Controller (rev 80)
> >00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1
> >Controller (rev 80)
> >00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
> >00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
> >00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
> >VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
> >01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX
> >5200] (rev a1)
> >
> An even older via chipset. It would be suspect until proven otherwise.
>
> >On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 12:41, Paul Ward wrote:
> >> >Thanks guys for the in depth knowledge of ide drives, I had no idea
> >> > it made that much difference myself but then I guess that is why I
> >> > am having problems.
> >> >
> >> >To throw some more information on the fault, as I said I ended up
> >> >using my spare test drive with FC6, this has been a trooper and
> >> > allows me to keep working.
> >> >
> >> >I decided to plug the troublesome drive into IDE1 as master, no other
> >> >drives were connected and I had the same issues thus I thought
> >> > proving the drive was playing up, but then I had the Idea of adding
> >> > it as a master of IDE2 and using the test drive as the master IDE1,
> >> > everything seems fine, I can mount the troublesome drive and see the
> >> > data, I can even read and write to it???? Does this mean my IDE1
> >> > controller is at fault?? if so I guess it must be related to the
> >> > chipsset / drive make?
> >>
> >> That I dunno about, but I can relate that I have one box, with a
> >> Mach-Speed mobo in it, that flat doesn't like an attached /dev/hdb
> >> under any wireing circumstances.  If I hook up a drive as /dev/hdb,
> >> both drives will have trashed filesystems shortly.  But since its
> >> bulletproof with just the main drive, and an older dvd-rw as /dev/hdc,
> >> and its main job is to run my milling machine, thats how its running.
> >> Kubuntu-6.06 on it, running an older HEAD of emc2.  Works fine.  In
> >> this case, and based on nearly 60 years of watching things electronic
> >> go bump in the night, my bet is on a buggy ide chipset.  I changed the
> >> drive cable twice, interchanged the drive twice and finally just gave
> >> up since even the smallest of those two drives was 20x what it needed
> >> to do its job.
> >>
> >> Here's an lspci from that box:
> >> root at shop:~# lspci
> >> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A]
> >> Chipset Host Bridge
> >> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
> >> 0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
> >> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
> >> 0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
> >> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
> >> 0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB
> >> 1.1 Controller (rev 80)
> >> 0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
> >> 0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
> >> 0000:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
> >> VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
> >> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.
> >> VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
> >> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102
> >> [Rhine-II] (rev 74)
> >> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34
> >> [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
> >> root at shop:~#
> >>
> >> Do you have anything that matches the above list in your box?
> >>
> >> >On 21/11/06, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Tuesday 21 November 2006 09:41, Tim wrote:
> >> >> >Tim:
> >> >> >>> IDE/ATA doesn't use termination, SCSI does.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Mel:
> >> >> >> I don't believe that is true. I believe they both use
> >> >> >> termination.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >While from a technical standpoint, there's a standard impedance
> >> >> > that loads the line, so it is "terminated".  There's nothing the
> >> >> > user does to the drive that changes it.  So I should have said it
> >> >> > doesn't have any user-set termination options.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Electrically, it doesn't matter whether the master or slave is at
> >> >> > the end of the line.  Neither's different in that regard.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes it does, only the drive jumpered as a slave has this turned
> >> >> off. For that reason it should always be on the middle connector,
> >> >> with the drive set as master on the end.  Yeah you can set it up
> >> >> bass-ackwards. And I'll say we told you so when your data gets
> >> >> fubared.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cheers, Gene
> >> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >> >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >> >> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> >> >> message by Gene Heskett are:
> >> >> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
> >> >>
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> >> --
> >> Cheers, Gene
> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> >> message by Gene Heskett are:
> >> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
>