ESR: Goodbye Fedora
Steve Friedman
steve at adsi-m4.com
Thu Feb 22 18:10:58 UTC 2007
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Steve Friedman wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
>>> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 17:19:34 -0600,
>>>> Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> And, you could update a
>>>>> test machine and after testing, reliably update other boxes to the same
>>>>> versions that you tested even if new updates had gone in the repository.
>>>>
>>> That's trivial to compute, so it doesn't need to be part of the
>>> application. What I really want are reliable, repeatable updates once I've
>>> done one and tested on a non-critical box, and I'd also like it to play
>>> nice with a caching web proxy.
>>
>> The workaround for this feature is trivial. We set up our own local
>> repository (initially because updating a new config over the internet was
>> so slow compared with ethernet speeds, but now we do it with installs and
>> have eliminated swapping CDs). Just push approved updates (instead of
>> blindly rsync'ing the part of the tree that interests you), and you're
>> done.
>
> That's always sounded fairly horrible to me as a workaround for something
> that should be really simple. My servers are widely distributed and not all
> of the same distribution/version so having to build the infrastructure of a
> local repository for each with hand-picked rpms doesn't sound like fun. I'd
> probably try to automate something that made a list of installed rpm versions
> and fed that to another machine's yum as an easier approach. Most of the
> servers are Centos, though and I've had pretty good luck with just trusting
> the repositories. The 3.x version even does something sensible when you use a
> proxy cache so I haven't put much effort into a workaround.
>
Your initial message said that you wanted to test the updates first. So,
although hand-picking isn't necessary, there will be some required admin
interaction to update the test machine, test it, then approve the updates.
The first and last steps can be one-liners.
Steve Friedman
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