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Re: How NSA access was built into Windows



On Mon January 15 2007 8:03 am, Andrew Parker wrote:
> I've spent a good 10-15 hours a week developing selinux for the last
> year or so, and have quite a  detailed understanding of the code
> there.  I can assure you now that I have never seen anything that
> looks like a back door in any of the code.
>
> I also work for the NSA.
>
> That is how it could be hidden.  A few developers saying this, but
> without the previous paragraph.

Andrew: My intent in posting that link was not to cast aspersions on you or 
Stephen Smalley or any of the other NSA personnel involved in the Selinux 
project. As I've already said, I don't even feel personally threatened. I try 
to keep Selinux running on my machines, and have posted a bug report or two.

To Scott (oldman), I'm not a programmer - I graduated at the top of my 
programming class many years ago at the Control Data Institute but that was 
the end of my programming career. I took up Python a couple of years ago, and 
was writing little programs after a week or so, but, I found the effort 
tortuous and finally dropped it - it's a right-brain/left-brain issue or 
something to that effect. My 15 year old nephew can dance programming circles 
around me, and he relishes it. For me, programming exercises are more akin to 
a form of self imposed punishment for past transgressions.
 
When a friend sent me that link last night, it triggered me to re-post it 
here, because of what I said - I have been using Linux for about 3.5 years 
now, and I began with Fedora, and while I've tried about 40 or so other 
distros, I've always returned to Fedora, and I've always been subscribed to 
this list. Yet, I've never seen this particular issue discussed on this list, 
and that's what I found curious. At the time I reposted the link, I hadn't 
really looked at it closely, and didn't catch the date it was written - that 
particular story has been circulating in various forms for years, and I have 
often wondered whether there was any truth to it. 

And, as I stated in my original post, given who my current administration is, 
I think it is a perfectly legitimate issue to raise. I think my government's 
penchant for monitoring its citizens has gone too far - eternal vigilance is 
a price that must be paid to secure freedom. There may be nothing but decent 
intent on the part of personnel involved in any given government program, but 
such programs have to be monitored - when government is granted intrusive 
power, someone will always find a way to abuse that power - that's a simple 
lesson of history. If I were a Brit, I would feel similar discomfort about 
the omnipresent cameras-on-the-public programs of that government... That's 
something I understand quite well, being a televesion producer. 
-- 
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD, USA


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