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RE: Can Linux beat XP in homes yet or NOT?



No, currently Linux will never beat Windows.
It's to complicated, an average home or office user will never get it to
work.
So personally I would not recommend anyone, who isn't a geek to use it.

I have tried my self a couple of times to install and run Linux on desktop,
allways ended up with a no-go.
Everytime I have ended up with bying full non-oem XP licence's instead.
I do run it on my servers though.

XP I can get up and running regardless of hardware in say 30 min's Linux
takes considerably longer time (days, weeks, months in some cases).

XP has basically everything, without hassle, extremly stable (basically
never crashes). Antivirus software is not an issue really. You probably need
it on linux as well, at least in the near future.

If you buy a preloaded PC, you probably have everything you need, for basic
home use.
It is cheaper for most people to purchase a valid XP license than spending
hours to get a linux-box to work.
Similar with Office, its cheaper to buy MS Office than spending time to get
Open Officce or whatever thay are called to work.

You can easilly fool yourself with the pricetag on any software, but time is
monney, allways.
Regarding MS support, well, those few times I have been forced to use it, it
is very good.

Personally, however I don't like MS-Office especially MS-Word, I love
WordPerfect, but last time I tested it it was extremly buggy, anyone that
knows how it is today, with the latest version?

With best regards

Tomas Larsson
Sweden
http://www.tlec.se
http://www.ebaman.com

Verus Amicus Est Tamquam Alter Idem 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-list-bounces redhat com 
> [mailto:fedora-list-bounces redhat com] On Behalf Of Antonio Olivares
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:13 PM
> To: For users of Fedora
> Subject: Re: Can Linux beat XP in homes yet or NOT?
> 
> 
> --- Mustafa Qasim <alajal gmail com> wrote:
> 
> > Yes! I agree with you Mr. Erich but can you or anyone else 
> tell me the 
> > key factors that are involved when convincing or guiding a 
> person how 
> > much it is easy to move to Linux or how we can make it easy 
> for them 
> > to take a test drive of Linux and then make them realize that it's 
> > really better their one.
> > 
> > I thinks the "Satisfaction factor" comes here. What we need is to 
> > build their satisfaction factor in Linux greater then Windows then 
> > they'll naturally realize it instead of forcing them to 
> make a blind 
> > jump. No one here will make a blind jump and if we force 
> them to do it 
> > and after that we couldn't help them too much to keep them 
> in ... then 
> > they will never ever come back... :P ...
> > 
> > so, what r the points to build the satisfaction factor of a 
> person on 
> > Linux?
> > 
> > On 7/13/07, Erich Zigler <ezigler superhero org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, July 13, 2007 8:16 am, Mustafa Qasim
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've tried to talk with my some friends about
> > these issues but at the
> > > end
> > > > i
> > > > came to know that they didn't need to listen the
> > philosophy of FOSS they
> > > > just want me to practically prove that Linux is
> > much easier and secure
> > > > then
> > > > Windows. For them installing software from
> > source or concept of mounting
> > > a
> > > > block device is much difficult because they
> > didn't have to do this in M$
> > > > XP
> > > > :p.
> > >
> > > I really do enjoy this subject. The bottom line is
> > that most desktop users
> > > out there do not care about licensing, holy wars,
> > FOSS, etc. They only
> > > care about one thing... does it work.
> > >
> > > Can they as a user sit down and get what they need
> > to done or will they be
> > > spending more time working on their workstation so
> > they can then work on
> > > their workstation.
> > >
> > > Linux has gotten much more "common man" user
> > friendly then it used to be.
> > > (Does any one else remember installing Slackware
> > from 26 floppies?) At
> > > this point in time I feel Linux has gotten to be
> > user friendly enough for
> > > the non-geeks out there to operate. People do not
> > like change. Individuals
> > > who were raised on Windows will stick with Windows
> > because it is what they
> > > know. Unless there is some stimulus for change it
> > is difficult to convince
> > > people to give it a shot.
> > >
> > > - Erich
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> This is an excellent question, with many fine answers from 
> people across the world.  
> 
> One answer I can think of, is to go to a computer store.  
> Tell the salesperson that you just want the computer no 
> software no OS.
> 
> Then ask the guy how much the computer costs.  It costs $X 
> and that is fine.
> 
> Then ask the guy if the computer has an OS, XP/Vista and how 
> much does more it cost.
> 
> The bottom line here is to buy two computers for head to head 
> comparison.  One with the default OS being Vista/XP and one 
> with no OS. On the machine with no OS test it out with a 
> liveCD and show the user how everything works, 
> sound/graphics/software and what comes with a linux system.  
> Fire up the other machine which comes with nothing closed to 
> it.  Tell the persons that to have something like all the 
> software already there, get linux.  If they want to get the 
> software in windows download it and try getting it for free 
> or pay for it.  
> 
> The windows computer will need antivirus/firewalls/ word 
> processsing/spreadsheets, etc.  it will usually have it with 
> a catch a trial version of MS Office for 30 days or something 
> like that.  The linux machine will have OpenOffice with no 
> strings attached. 
> Furthermore, if the user does not like OpenOffice, he/she can 
> get Koffice, Abiword and Gnumeric.  The choices are there.  
> In windows there is OpenOffice, but you have to download it, 
> it does not come with Windows.  The ones that come with 
> windows is with a catch, and catches like those not too many 
> people want.  
> 
> Also people need some time to test Linux on their systems.  
> Recommend a liveCD and take a test drive. 
> They need to see the advantages of linux vs the other OS. 
> 
> These are just some little ideas because more things come 
> into play.  The users might also want mp3 playback, being 
> able to watch their DVD's.  The linux that they will use, 
> should have the ability to do this, or make it simple for a 
> user to install the software required for this.  They are not 
> to be worried about legality issues/patents or other stuff 
> which will be intimidating to them.  In the end, the decision 
> to use linux/XP will come down to them, no one will force 
> themselves upon them.  They should see for themselves which 
> system is more convenient for them.  Which one does more for less?  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Antonio 
> 
> 
> 
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