Change in ls -l time stamp display?

[Sjoerd Mullender]

Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
> On Tue, July 17, 2007 08:12, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
>>> On Tue, July 17, 2007 07:36, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>> Pete Geenhuizen wrote:
>>>>> I just started noodling around with F7, on my second install, and I'm
>>>>> sure that initially, but not positive, in an ls -l listing the file
>>>>> time stamp was as it has always been.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either I missed it or the recent update of coreutils has changed the
>>>>> time stamp display in a long listing of ls. Is it me or has anyone
>>>>> else also noticed this change.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I mean, notice the date format
>>>>> fc6
>>>>> $ ls -lad /etc
>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 154 root root 12288 Jul 17 00:44 /etc
>>>>>
>>>>> now in f7
>>>>> $ ls -lad /etc
>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 108 root root 12288 2007-07-17 04:28 /etc
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's me can someone enlighten me what the fix is or is this a bug?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thx
>>>>> Pete
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>>>> I don't detect any virus from your email Pete. Why did you install F7
>>>> twice?
>>> Because I might have more than one computer perhaps?
>>>
>>>> If it loads it is good I thought. I looked at man ls and it seems
>>>> to be the same one from FC6 so far as I can see. What you show is the
>>>> same thing from FC6 and F7 the difference being the date. On FC6 you
>>>> get
>>>> a USA standard date. On F7 you get the European date and that looks
>>>> different. Both are accurate I think and I like the looks of the F7
>>>> line
>>>> better :-)
>>> I'm not disputing it's accuracy.
>>> I checked the man pages.
>>> I didn't ask for, didn't select, nor do I live in Europe, no offense,
>>> but I have no interest in European time display.
>>>
>>> None of you suggestions or comments address my question, and if I
>>> preferred the f7 output I wouldn't have brought it up, I obviously
>>> prefer the old listing which has been that way in every Unix version
>>> that I've worked on for the past 25 years.
>>
>> I noticed the difference too.
> Good so it isn't me.
> Out of curiosity, did you notice if F7 has always been this way or is it
> as a result of the recent coreutils update?
> 
> I use something like this to get the old
>> formatting back:
>>
>> alias ls="ls --time-style=$'+%b %_d %Y\n%b %_d %H:%M'"
> Thanks saves me nutting it out, and works like a charm.  It's hell when
> you are stuck in a rut.

It was like that from the beginning.  I installed F7 about a day after
it came out.

-- 
Sjoerd Mullender

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