Volume Control use

David Boles dgboles at gmail.com
Fri Jun 22 22:13:27 UTC 2007


on 6/22/2007 2:50 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
> David Boles wrote:
>> on 6/22/2007 1:29 PM, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>   
>>> David Boles wrote:
>>>     
>>>> on 6/22/2007 5:04 AM, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>>> David Boles wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>>>> on 6/21/2007 7:23 PM, Tim wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 12:59 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>     If you have either F7 or F6 with all the updates you will have a 
>>>>>>>> Volume Control that is broken. When you click it up if your in the Alsa 
>>>>>>>> mixer mode you on the right side a Microphone listed on the Playback 
>>>>>>>> tab. This is wrong and if you look at the device below the Mike it shows 
>>>>>>>> a speaker!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     To use this bad system first turn up the Master and Master Mono to 
>>>>>>>> the top and set Mike to the top. Now click File and select the TriTech 
>>>>>>>> OSS Mixer. 
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> Firstly, that "TriTech" bit only refers to your hardware.  People with
>>>>>>> different sound hardware will see something different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second, make a damn bugzilla report.  We've all heard the same story
>>>>>>> from you several times, this week.  We know about it by now, you're not
>>>>>>> doing anything constructive about it.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> Karl - Please read this and listen. I am not writing this to be mean or
>>>>>> insulting in any way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had FC-3, FC-4, FC-5, FC6, and FC-7 all installed one after the
>>>>>> other. At the same time I have always had rawhide (the development branch
>>>>>> of Fedora) installed too.  And my mixers/volume controls have all worked
>>>>>> just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I really think that your problems are either your hardware or Pebkac.
>>>>>> Really. And if I had to bet I would bet on Pebkac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>           
>>>>>     Hi and first I have no idea what Pebkac is. I will try the man 
>>>>> pages. Second, the problem is NOT my hardware. This same hardware works 
>>>>> just fine if you don't upgrade the gstream software on FC6.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Finally it is not just my problem. There have been many on this list 
>>>>> say they see the same thing on F7. What your complaining about was an 
>>>>> effort I made to tell those using the Volume Control how to do it. And 
>>>>> yes most people have just one sound card. That being said how I wonder 
>>>>> do you adjust the mike gain?
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>         
>>>> Pebkac - _p_roblem _e_xists _b_etween _k_eyboard _a_nd _c_omputer.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> It means that you don't know, don't understand, or both, what you are
>>>> doing. Which can be dangerous to your installation. You are using what is
>>>> called the 'shotgun' method. What does that mean? Think about using a
>>>> shotgun to try to kill a single housefly buzzing around your living room.
>>>>
>>>> I can understand you frustrations. Truly.
>>>>
>>>> And Gnome-Volume-Control, as you have been told by several people, has
>>>> absolutely nothing to do with audio volume. What does that mean? that you
>>>> are trying to solve your problem but twiddling with the wrong package.
>>>>
>>>> From what you are describing you are looking at a KDE GUI audio mixer
>>>> application. And that I can not help you with because I do not use KDE.
>>>>   
>>>>       
>>>     David. In several cases I have called it the Gnome Volume Control. I 
>>> have today filed a bug. We do not need to beat this old horse again. It 
>>> is being worked on.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>     
>> Well in that case I wish you luck. I use GNOME as my desktop and do not
>> have KDE, or any other desktop installed. All I can tell is that mine
>> works. The red 'X's you mentioned switch on and off with a single, simple
>> mouse click. And setting them on or off affects if the device they control
>> works or doesn't work.
>>
>>   
>     Well David don't keep us in suspense, what version of Fedora and did 
> you apply all upgrades?
> 
> Karl
> 

You really want to know? Sure. It, what you are having problems with, has
worked, for me, with FC-4, FC-5, FC-6, and Fedora 7. All the release
installs and with all the updates applied as they were released.

It also works, again for me, in Rawhide.  Rawhide is the development
branch that eventually turns into the next release version. Rawhide
updates daily, Several 100 megs daily is a normal update for Rawhide.
Sometimes more. Sometimes less. It varies. Normal is four kernels a week
as an example.

-- 

  David

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