We need a new subject- bug fixes

David G. Miller dave at davenjudy.org
Tue Mar 6 15:56:08 UTC 2007


Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve Searle wrote:
>>  
>>     
>>>> >>> If most users had to set up an SMTP server, we know what would happen:
>>>> >>> They'd be set to accept mail from all domains, and relay to all, as it'd
>>>> >>> be too hard to work out how to do it otherwise.
>>>>         
>>> >> This is precisely why a usable configuration should be supplied, so the 
>>> >> users don't make such mistakes.  Exactly the same is true for samba, 
>>> >> ftp, sshd, and most other services.  If someone has to set any of these 
>>> >> up from scratch they are going to make mistakes the first time and have 
>>> >> an insecure system.
>>>       
>> > 
>> > Do you actually have any evidence that the configuration supplied is
>> > causing users to make mistakes and set up mail servers that do act as
>> > spam relays?  Or is it all just a pet theory?
>>     
>
> I only know about my own mistakes which I'm not inclined to discuss 
> here.  What evidence do you have that everyone else gets this right 
> every time without help from the distro?
You mean besides those of us who keep replying to you and who run our 
own mail servers?

I won't say I got it right every time but a quick Google for an error 
message or a few tests using somebody's web-mail service were usually 
sufficient to sort things out.

Cheers,
Dave

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