please help: xv on FC6 x86_64 won't set root window
Phil Meyer
pmeyer at themeyerfarm.com
Thu Mar 15 23:12:02 UTC 2007
Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 15Mar2007 15:50, Phil Meyer <pmeyer at themeyerfarm.com> wrote:
> | Aaron Konstam wrote:
> | >On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 13:04 -0600, Phil Meyer wrote:
> | >>Correct, xv is not relevant any more.
> | >>And yes, I was a fan of xv for years, but that was many years ago,
> | >>now. :)
> | >>
> | >I don't know why xv is not relevant. It works more easily to display
> | >images, change image coding, manipulate sizes, crop, etc that anything
> | >else I have seen.
> |
> | As you stated, there has been no development on xv for years now. That
> | alone makes it irrelevant.
>
> That is a non sequitur. I use xv routinely to view images. It is fast to
> load, VERY easy to use, has the nice shnauser tool etc. "cat" doesn't
> get much development either.
>
> | But here are some more reasons:
> | 1. No support for 'Desktop' controls. Only supports the X root window.
>
> Not everyone uses a "desktop" tool. I don't.
>
> I use fvwm-root to set wallpaper images though, as it sets the property a
> lot of pseudo-transparent terminals honour.
>
A purist you may be, but there are advantages to Gnome, and KDE,
although the resource requirements do seem to get higher and higher.
> | 2. Antiquated user interface.
>
> Yet faster and _easier_ than many recent tools.
>
Perhaps, but xv is not something that I would recommend to anyone any more.
> | 3. Newer tools may be superior, although not as comprehensive; ie:
>
> Hmm, an oxymoron too! Yay.
>
The old saying that 'UNIX users do it with small modular tools' rings
true here. Using more than one tool to mess with images is appropriate
to the functionality desired.
> | 4. xv is not maintained as an rpm (that I know of)
>
> It's shareware, not freeware or GPL. The standard repositories won't
> carry it. It's easy to build and has several handy patches.
>
> | xv had its day, and I regret its passing, but in my most humble opinion,
> | it has surely passed.
>
> I trust you've abandoned the command line too then.
>
Haha, funny you should say that. More than 25 years of CLI for me, and
punchcards and teletype before that.
I first saw xv when I was asked to build it on SUNOS in -- hmmm for sure
1991 but possibly earlier. If my memory holds, that was SUNOS 4.0.3C.
When xv went dark, I moved on.
% gthumb .
Works for me!
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