Fedora Core 6 HUGE problem
Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
Mon May 28 22:32:41 UTC 2007
Frank Cox wrote:
>> it is about supporting fedora
>> users and providing something that works for them. It seems odd for
>> that to be such a controversial topic.
>
> The main problem is support for a "black box", as you have been told many times
> before.
Yes, people keep repeating that, yet they never produce any evidence to
show how much better and more reliable Linux 3-D video is on the
corresponding hardware than Windows or OSX with their binary-only
drivers. I've never experienced any problems with those myself.
> A side-effect of this is that people are incented to purchase and use products
> from "cooperative manufacturers" when they wish to use Fedora (or any other
> Linux distribution). Personally, I use and recommend Intel motherboards
> and video chipsets when anyone asks my opinion. (I don't know about you, but I
> get asked several times every week.)
>
> I'm just one guy, and who cares about my opinion? Apparently, folks around here
> do. You can provide similar advice to the folks around your area who care about
> yours. On a sufficiently large scale, the problem will eventually become
> self-resolving as Nvidia and ATI and whoever-else will wake up and smell the
> coffee and continue to sell video cards into the Linux market, or not.
>
> Intel graphics currently work just fine out-of-the-box and will continue
> to do so.
For some definition of working and some of their chips... Intel has
made a bunch of stuff that shares motherboard RAM and produces output
that isn't great. I haven't kept up with which is which.
> Nvidia's and ATI's don't. Therefore, the correct decision is
> obvious; if the purchaser doesn't research his purchase before putting his
> money on the counter, whose fault is that?
Nvidia and ATI's drivers aren't included in the box. They could be.
> "But it's a lot of money to spend to buy a new computer!" Indeed, it can be.
> The more reason to look into what you're buying before making the deal.
>
> "But we already have one of these unsupported video cards in our old computer!"
> Well, it's unsupported. Your choices are to live with it or purchase a
> supported card.
Or run an OS that respects its users enough to include the vendor's
drivers - which is what the majority do.
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Les Mikesell
lesmikesell at gmail.com
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