fedora-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 68
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> 1. Re: Punch cards (Aaron Konstam)
> 2. Re: OT: Programming in C (Da Rock)
> 3. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Patrick O'Callaghan)
> 4. Re: permanently enable/disable yum repositories (Aaron Konstam)
> 5. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Les)
> 6. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Da Rock)
> 7. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Da Rock)
> 8. search eengine for archives of this list (Y Uanlux)
> 9. Re: search eengine for archives of this list (Wink Saville)
> 10. Re: Hardware reticensy (Simon Slater)
> 11. Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop (Pedro Freire)
> 12. Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in
> Fedora 9 (Edwin Tan)
> 13. Re: A silent UPS (Mike D)
> 14. Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in
> Fedora 9 (Patrick O'Callaghan)
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>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:13:27 -0500
> From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Punch cards
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207782807.3067.3.camel at cyrus>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 00:23 +0930, Tim wrote:
> >
> > The changeover's been pushed back, yet again, to 2013. There's
> > experiments all over the place. Here, in Adelaide, the VHF stations
> > have been broadcasting for years beyond their license range, using
> > masses of power (they can be received across the gulf, but they're not
> > meant to, they're licensed for Adelaide and suburbs). All of us have
> > been taking advantage of that, and getting away with mediocre antenna
> > systems because there's such a high level of RF in the air to pick up.
> > SBS on UHF 28 put out the most power of the lot, ostensibly because
> > when
> > they started many had sets with bad UHF tuners and inadequate
> > antennas,
> > so they tried to make it easy.
> Well Tim you may be pushing your luck on being right. I have heard
> noting about pushing the digital switch to 2013. As far as I know in the
> US it is still 2009. Do you have a reference for this assertion you are
> making.
> --
> =======================================================================
> A shapely CATHOLIC SCHOOLGIRL is FIDGETING inside my costume..
> =======================================================================
> Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:12:15 +1000
> From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au>
> Subject: Re: OT: Programming in C
> To: Robin.Laing at drdc-rddc.gc.ca, For users of Fedora
> <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1207782735.16346.181.camel at laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:49 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> > Da Rock wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 09:39 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> > >> max bianco wrote:
> > >>> I want to learn C and I know there are quite a few programmers on this
> > >>> list. I am looking for a couple of good books on learning C. I am not
> > >>> exactly a beginner but I am no expert and i would like to start going
> > >>> over everything from scratch. So if I could get some referrals to a
> > >>> couple of books I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking for a good
> > >>> thorough beginners guide to C and also something for the intermediate
> > >>> programmer as I expect to get through the former in fairly short
> > >>> order. I ultimately will be directing my efforts at kernel hacking. As
> > >>> always , any advice and or opinion is gratefully received.
> > >>>
> > >>> Max
> > >>>
> > >> I took a C course ages ago and I am trying to refresh my memory. I
have
> > >> found many tutorials on C on the web. I am going through some of them
> > >> now. I have already found a few that have errors in their examples or
> > >> examples that are incomplete. Also, when searching, many of the
results
> > >> would return C++ links instead of C links.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Could you post some of those web tutorials?
> >
> > I am no expert on the quality of these sites. I am just starting to go
> > through them. I have come across a few that were restricted to their
> > local country or students. (IP issues) These are in no particular order.
> >
> > This is the one I am looking at now and was open. Lucky to be first I
> > guess.
> > http://users.bestweb.net/~ctips/
> >
> > This one says Lesson 1: The basics of C++ but in the intro paragraph
> > actually says this if for C.
> >
> > http://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/c/lesson1.html
> >
> > http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/
> > http://www.c-faq.com/
> > http://www.linfo.org/create_c1.html
> > http://www.deitel.com/ResourceCenters/Programming/C/CTutorialsandWebcasts/
tabid/208/Default.aspx
> >
> > Then there is Googles Code search.
> > http://www.google.com/codesearch
> > >
> > >> As I am using Linux and gcc, I want to focus on using these tools. I
> > >> had Turbo C but it was a Windows 3.1 version.
> > >>
> > >> I need to learn C for working with microcontrollers for a few projects
> > >> that I that I am now working on.
> > >>
> > >> Now to dig through my boxes of books and find my C books, if I still
> > >> have them.
> > >>
> > >> Also, if you are going to use gcc, then look at the man pages for
> > >> compiler flags and linking libraries. I came across this yesterday
when
> > >> I was looking for a lint program. Also you and type in man 3 {function
}
> > >> to get more information on that function.
> > >>
> > >> man 3 cos
> > >>
> > >
> > > Thats good to know. I'm starting to get into this myself (when I can
> > > scratch up some time... :) ), so it'll give me soemwhere to look.
> > > Someone mentioned it elsewhere, but I didn't realise it was that easy,
> > > or the man category to look for.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> >
> > Neither did I. Sure saves looking through books to find the information.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > --
>
> Indeed- thanks.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:54:16 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207783456.23643.17.camel at bree>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2
> > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the
> > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be
> > released I will wait and try F9.
> > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a
> > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have
> > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I
> > really appreciate some sign of life
>
> Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no
> messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to
> January).
>
> poc
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:26:05 -0500
> From: Aaron Konstam <akonstam at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: permanently enable/disable yum repositories
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207783565.3067.8.camel at cyrus>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:45 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:24:34 +0200
> > Valent Turkovic <valent.turkovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I know that. I'm looking for a tool that does that if it exists.
> >
> > What about sed?
> I suspect a disablerepo line could be put in /etc/yu.conf
> --
> =======================================================================
> I hear the sound that the machines make, and feel my heart break, just
> for a moment.
> =======================================================================
> Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam at sbcglobal.net
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:30:34 -0700
> From: Les <hlhowell at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207783834.17334.2.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2
> > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the
> > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be
> > released I will wait and try F9.
> > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a
> > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have
> > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I
> > really appreciate some sign of life
> > Thank you so much, Vinny
> > --
> > fedora-list mailing list
> > fedora-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> Hi, Vinny,
> None of us is paid to do this. We respond to those questions we know
> how to answer. Sometimes what is asked is somewhat unique to a person's
> setup, in which case no response is typical. Sometimes the answer is
> already resident in the archives, and we expect you to search them
> first. But if you search the archives first and try the solution(s)
> there, and still do not have success, then compose your question such
> that you tell what steps you have already taken.
>
> Regards,
> Les H
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:41:31 +1000
> From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1207784491.16346.186.camel at laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2
> > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the
> > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be
> > > released I will wait and try F9.
> > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a
> > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have
> > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I
> > > really appreciate some sign of life
> >
> > Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no
> > messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to
> > January).
>
> I haven't noticed anything either, and I KNOW I would have seen this one
> if it came up- I have had some trouble installing on my laptop as well.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:42:12 +1000
> From: Da Rock <rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1207784532.16346.188.camel at laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 18:54 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 19:02 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > > I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2
> > > e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the
> > > problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be
> > > released I will wait and try F9.
> > > I would like to establish communication with you people, as a
> > > newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have
> > > couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I
> > > really appreciate some sign of life
> >
> > Are you sure you sent your questions to the right place? I can see no
> > messages from your email address on this list (and I checked back to
> > January).
>
> I haven't noticed anything either, and I KNOW I would have seen this one
> if it came up- I have had some trouble installing on my laptop as well.
>
> That said, why not repost the original question?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:47:57 +1000
> From: "Y Uanlux" <yuanlux at gmail.com>
> Subject: search eengine for archives of this list
> To: Fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <f94605970804091647v3fb3b81dv98b4b9043ddcfd12 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi
> The volume of this list is BIG. does anyone set up a search engine or has
> search tips from google?
>
> Thank
> Y
> the archives
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:05:57 -0700
> From: Wink Saville <wink at saville.com>
> Subject: Re: search eengine for archives of this list
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <47FD59E5.7010705 at saville.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Y Uanlux wrote:
> > Hi
> > The volume of this list is BIG. does anyone set up a search engine or
> > has search tips from google?
> >
> > Thank
> > Y
> > the archives
> I was wondering the same thing and did find:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#searchit
>
> But, I think having a specific database/search engine might be nice.
>
> Wink Saville
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:00:27 +1000
> From: Simon Slater <pyevet at aapt.net.au>
> Subject: Re: Hardware reticensy
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207782027.3936.7.camel at ipex.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 20:36 +0200, SzXra GyXrgy wrote:
> > community,
> > I submit to you my plain request as wether exchanging my video card
> > would fix the fault. My concern issue looks like
> > as follows:
> > Not knowing wether anybody among you had noticed yet the phenomenon when
> > ancient hardware and a relative new system clach ?
> > I have a P III. PC desktop with FC4 running on it for a year or so.That
> > configuration has been me working faultless till now.
> > Recently I sensed and set about a release renewal and installed RC6
> > release. I did not dare try a more andvanced distro fearing a clash
> > betveen my P III PC and the newest (Fedora8).
> > Although in relevant README from Fedora 6 release I did not noticed
> > any deficiency regarding the requirement of OS's release.
> > I have abundantly of CPU 1.3 Gb and 500 SDRAM. I dare say to add it
> > more- all my hardware ingredient were assembled of brand new qualities.
> > though till now the whole is becoming a little old, I must admit. But
> > not wanting to buy a new PC for the time being.
> > In spite of all this favourable conditions and to my sorry
> > the (Gnome ) desktop environment of my new installation shows up odd
> > behaviour. All destop images are miniaturized and what is more the
> > configuration utilities are blocked to work. I did not succeded
> > configure neither PPP dial-up nor CUPS for printer. The GUI's
> > interactive panels keep itself each time faint or eclipsed. This
> > suggests me there may be somewehre a clash between GUI of Fedora newer
> > release and my disposable Motherboard (Soltek with Via chipset) or VGA
> > (Nvidia 17 Geforce4MX 4000).
> > Don't you think a better VGA might fix this anomaly instead of buying an
> > up to date PC ?
> > Any suggestion may be highly appreciated with best regards
> > Gy Szara
> >
> Hi Gy,
> Just to throw in my situation rather than advice, I have FC6 running
> fine on 2 PII's, one 233MHz 512MbRAM and the other 400MHz with 256
> MbRAM. They are not fast, but work fine. One of these days when there
> is plenty of spare time, I'll try F8 on them to see what happens. I'll
> leave it to others more experienced to comment on the video situation.
>
> --
> Regards
> Simon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:19:46 +0100
> From: Pedro Freire <pmr.freire at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207783187.4020.1.camel at pmf-fc8>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> first message I see. What was your questions ?
>
> I have Fedora 8 installed on a laptop (fujitsu-siemens Lifebook).
> Installed with no problem, no extra drivers were needed. Right out of
> the box ...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Onelli <vonelli at optonline.net>
> Reply-To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> To: Fedora-list <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Subject: Fedora 8 does not install on laptop
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:02:40 -0400
>
> I am a bit disappointed not been able to receive any answer to my 2
> e-mail. I am receiving 10 to 15 e-mail a day but none of them list the
> problem that I have, at this point since fedora 9 will soon be released
> I will wait and try F9.
> I would like to establish communication with you people, as a
> newbie have some body to ask a question is a good feeling. I do have
> couple other issue that I could not resolve on my own. So please I
> really appreciate some sign of life
> Thank you so much, Vinny
> --
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> fedora-list at redhat.com
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:19:40 +0800
> From: "Edwin Tan" <edwintan at creativedesigner.biz>
> Subject: Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in
> Fedora 9
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <9B357AF588C5411AB66B98CA6C3B8349 at EDWINTAN>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> hi all,
> Since Fedora 9 is coming out soon next month. I would like to know
> the drivers support for the WiFi adapters, will Fedora include the
> drivers in their OS or rely on the 3rd party contributors? By the way,
> found the .run installer from ATI is pretty neat. Will all the drivers
> come this way?
>
> thanks
>
> regards,
> Edwin Tan,
> Technical Support Manager
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:26:00 +1200
> From: "Mike D" <42flicks at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: A silent UPS
> To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID:
> <2b54d4370804091726k6149b730mb89c3e424732e6af at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Da Rock <rock_on_the_web at comcen.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 09:00 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
> > > Konstantin Svist wrote:
> > > > Da Rock wrote:
> > > >> This may sound like a strange question, but is there a way to mute
> > the
> > > >> voice box of a UPS? I have a highly specialised application for one-
> > I
> > > >> need a mobile desktop pc (very cheap). I need to setup a pc for my
> > > >> little girl so that she has music, video, and visualisations while
> > she's
> > > >> in her cot- which is mobile and moved from room to room. So I don't
> > want
> > > >> to shutdown the pc when in transit, and I certainly don't want any
> > > >> shrieks when I unplug the power...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They're usually called "laptops" :-)
> > > >
> > > > Some UPS models have a mute button, but you need to press it after you
> > > > hear the alarm.
> > > > Alternative is to open one up and disconnect the speaker wires.
> > > > Best, of course, is to just get a cheap laptop
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I will second the comment on a laptop. You can get a decent laptop for
> > > around the same price as all the hardware and software to mount a
> > > computer, ups, speakers...
> > >
> > > The added benefit is total mobility. Now you can take the full setup in
> > > a vehicle if you have to transport her to a different location. Or if
> > > the need arises, a hospital (with added security).
> >
> > Yeah, actually the Eee PC from Asus would have been the best, BUT (big
> > but) the unit didn't fit the requirement I needed unless the screen
> > folded back 180 degrees. And I got the PC for around $350 anyway- hard
> > to beat with a laptop. Mind you the whole setup will cost the same as a
> > laptop once I'm done - PC, UPS, and a 7" touch screen monitor... Can't
> > get that in a laptop anywhere.
> >
> > --
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> > fedora-list at redhat.com
> > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
>
>
> What about the Asus with an external monitor attached? I though they
> supported that? Would be a tidier solution :).
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:58:19 -0430
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: WiFi - Wireless-G and Wireless-N adapters support in
> Fedora 9
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <1207787300.23643.21.camel at bree>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 08:19 +0800, Edwin Tan wrote:
> > hi all,
> > Since Fedora 9 is coming out soon next month. I would like to
> > know
> > the drivers support for the WiFi adapters, will Fedora include
> > the
> > drivers in their OS or rely on the 3rd party contributors? By
> > the way,
> > found the .run installer from ATI is pretty neat. Will all the
> > drivers
> > come this way?
>
> Why are you replying to your own message if you're not going to add
> anything? Sending the same question twice within a few hours is not
> going to win you any friends.
>
> If by any chance you aren't sure if your question has reached the list,
> you can always check the archives at
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list before repeating it.
>
> poc
>
>
>
>
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