non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

max maximilianbianco at gmail.com
Sun Aug 24 15:15:26 UTC 2008


Björn Persson wrote:
> max wrote:
>> You had no idea there was a security
>> issue? It was the first thing to cross my mind when I first saw the
>> announcement. What else could it have been? Why else the cryptic
>> message?
> 
> You're lucky to be that paranoid. Many people would call me paranoid if they 
You call it paranoia, I call it common sense. Do the math, I did. I felt 
that if it was anything but a security issue then they'd have come right 
out and said so. The only reason not to come out and say so boiled down 
to a handful of things. An ongoing investigation and/or uncertainty 
about what had happened. If you and others want to insist that it was 
just not wanting to own up to the incident then I have to assume you 
don't trust the Fedora Project. If you don't trust it then why use the 
product of its labor? All this talk of obscurity is a bunch of bullshit 
when anyone with a grain of common sense would have come to the proper 
conclusion or suspicion, if you like, and done what needed doing at 
their end. The message set off the warning bells for me precisely 
because it avoided stating that it wasn't a security issue, others read 
it the same way. All things considered its been handled to my 
satisfaction. The only thing that's been made clear is that the Fedora 
Project has a number of users who take it for granted.

> knew what kind of security measures I take with my home computers, but 
> apparently I'm not paranoid enough yet.
> 
> Can you answer the opposite question: Why the cryptic message? Can you think 
> of a rational reason to avoid the word "security"? Something more concrete 
> than just "legal issues"?
> 
Once again we don't know the constraints imposed on them. Some are 
certainly caused by legal issues and what remains an on going 
investigation. Your opinion of US law is irrelevant, I've had my issues 
with it before as well but the law is the law. The point is that we 
don't have all the facts. The more important point is that you have used 
half the facts to indict Paul Frields. I am willing to concede that you 
might even be right Bjorn, but you have rushed to judgement before a 
reasonable amount of time has been given to carry out the investigation. 
Your being unfair.

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alcohol, morphine or idealism." --Carl Jung




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