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Re: Helping with RPMFusion (Was Re: Warning: rpmfusion nvidia driver needs a special xorg.conf setup.)

On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 14:50 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 29.11.2008 19:08, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >> On 29.11.2008 17:52, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 13:53 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >>>> On 29.11.2008 00:16, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
> > <snip...>
> >>> Perhaps it would also help if this issue was actually communicated
> >>> someplace conspicuous on the RPMFusion site. Not everyone looking at
> >>> RPMFusion will pick up a small paragraph at the end of a rather long
> >>> post in fedora-announce.
> >>  >
> >>> I'm looking at RPMFusion.org right now, and there's absolutely nothing
> >>> there about this. But there is something in the FAQ section about why
> >>> people _should_ install the RPMFusion nVidia and ATI drivers, and that
> >>> in turn provides a link to the "RPMFusionSwitcher" page, which gives
> >>> complete instructions on how to (allegedly for ATI) do it.
> >>> [...]
> >> Fully agreed. But that needs volunteers and people that actually do 
> >> that. most RPM Fusion contributors are already overloaded. Would you 
> >> want to help?
> > 
> > RPMFusion Wiki Account / Profile and Bugzilla account created
> > successfully.
> Welcome!
> > Glad to help where I am able. Let me know...
> Well, it's a bit like it's often in the Open-Source-World afaics: Simply 
> set yourself a goal and work towards it. Don't be shy and don't fear to 
> much that you might step on somebodies toes as long as your work is an 
> overall improvement.
> Maybe you could actually give the wiki some love to fix the points you 
> raised earlier in this discussion? I for one would fine something like 
> this really great for our wiki:
> - a page that people can watch/subscribe to to get a up2date status of 
> what happening in regrards to the graphics drivers
> - a page that descries the differences between the different nvidia 
> driver series
> - maybe merge http://rpmfusion.org/RPMFusionSwitcher and 
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01565.html
> and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/3rdPartyVideoDrivers ; explain on 
> it why we use the xorg.conf hack with the ExtensionDir and the 
> ld.conf.d-hack to point to let apps use the libGL.so.1 from nvidia
> - explain the dangers of attconfig, nvidia-xconfig and other tools until 
> a real solution is found (see
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204 )
> - a "how to debug problems with the graphics driver packages from RPM 
> Fusion". E.g. check if kmod is loaded, check dmesg for messages from 
> module, check Xorg.0.log, check if the extension path is set in 
> xorg.conf, glxinfo in general, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo, ldd 
> /usr/bin/glxinfo; games with hardcoded rpath might not work -- things 
> like that
> There are likely other things that I forgot right here, but maybe that 
> gives you some ideas/impressions (and if you don't understand some of 
> the things I said simply ignore them or ask for advice). Steward and 
> Nicolas (CCed) can likely help and answer questions if needed as well -- 
> those two take care of the graphic driver packages in RPM Fusion.

OK - Sounds like a good starting plan. I'm on the road this week kicking
off a new client engagement. That has me pretty swamped at the moment,
but I will start looking at this more in-depth as I get some spare
cycles this week.



Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora cawllc com>

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