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I just want to test whether all  keys could not be imported. Because I
can not import any new keys, e.g.  sudo rpm --import
http://atrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms. I have download this rpm file.
[sudo] password for aa: 
error: http://atrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms: import failed.
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. FC10 Error (hejunfeng rdmbiz com)
>    2. Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant (dexter)
>    3. Re: FC10 Error (Todd Zullinger)
>    4. Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant (lanas)
>    5. Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow (Patrick O'Callaghan)
>    6. Re: Boardcom bcm2046 bluetooth problem (Steve Repo)
>    7. Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow (Matthew Saltzman)
>    8. (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ?? (Rahul Tidke)
>    9. Re: root in FC 10 (Fred Silsbee)
>   10. Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ?? (Tim)
>   11. Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio: (Tim)
>   12. Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio: (Tim)
>   13. Re: root in FC 10 (Todd Zullinger)
>   14. Re: root in FC 10 (Tim)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:52:33 +0800
> From: "hejunfeng rdmbiz com" <hejunfeng rdmbiz com>
> Subject: FC10 Error
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <1228531954 16169 6 camel laptop localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312"
> 
> Hi My Friends,
> There is a problem when install sw to fc10. Do you have any ideas? Below
> is the error message:
> 
> [root laptop ~]# rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY*
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary: import
> failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-i386: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-x86_64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PPTP: import failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora: import
> failed.
> error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora: import
> failed.
> [root laptop ~]# rpm --import http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY
> error: http://rpm.livna.org/RPM-LIVNA-GPG-KEY: import failed.
> [root laptop ~]# rpm --import http://freshrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms
> error: http://freshrpms.net/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed.
> [root laptop ~]# /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Danfer ykpzrligncer
> -bash: /msg: 
> [root laptop ~]# rpm -qa | grep key
> gpg-pubkey-30c9ecf8-3f9da3f7
> gpg-pubkey-e42d547b-3960bdf1
> gnome-keyring-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-49c8885a-4878ddfb
> keyutils-libs-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b
> gpg-pubkey-66534c2b-3e60b428
> xkeyboard-config-1.4-4.fc10.noarch
> xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.0-3.fc9.i386
> system-config-keyboard-1.2.15-4.fc10.noarch
> gpg-pubkey-f613cbe8-483c6049
> gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.0-0.2.87622svn.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-862acc42-42243bfc
> gnome-keyring-pam-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> coolkey-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3
> gpg-pubkey-b1981b68-4878de85
> gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5
> keyutils-libs-devel-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> coolkey-devel-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> gpg-pubkey-0b86274e-48b5dd6f
> gpg-pubkey-f6777c67-45e5b1b9
> [root laptop ~]# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms
> error: RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms: import read failed(-1).
> [root laptop ~]# 
> 
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> -- 
> 
> Please feel free to call me 
> Best Regards
> 
> 
> He Junfeng
> Mobile: 13911069420
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 

> 
> hejunfeng rdmbiz com wrote:
> > There is a problem when install sw to fc10. Do you have any ideas? Below
> > is the error message:
> > 
> > [root laptop ~]# rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY*
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-adobe-linux: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-10-primary: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-i386: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ia64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-ppc64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-primary: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-10-primary: import
> > failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-i386: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ia64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-ppc64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-primary: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-x86_64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-x86_64: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-freshrpms: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-livna: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-PPTP: import failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-free-fedora: import
> > failed.
> > error: /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora: import
> > failed.
> 
> Out of curiosity, why are you trying to import all of these keys (many
> of which are redundant because they are symbolic links)?
> 
> > [root laptop ~]# /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Danfer XXXXXXXXXXXX
> > -bash: /msg: 
> 
> Be careful what you copy and paste to a public list. ;)
> 
> > [root laptop ~]# rpm -qa | grep key
> > gpg-pubkey-30c9ecf8-3f9da3f7
> > gpg-pubkey-e42d547b-3960bdf1
> > gnome-keyring-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> > gpg-pubkey-49c8885a-4878ddfb
> > keyutils-libs-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> > gpg-pubkey-4f2a6fd2-3f9d9d3b
> > gpg-pubkey-66534c2b-3e60b428
> > xkeyboard-config-1.4-4.fc10.noarch
> > xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.0-3.fc9.i386
> > system-config-keyboard-1.2.15-4.fc10.noarch
> > gpg-pubkey-f613cbe8-483c6049
> > gnome-keyring-sharp-1.0.0-0.2.87622svn.fc10.i386
> > gpg-pubkey-862acc42-42243bfc
> > gnome-keyring-pam-2.24.1-1.fc10.i386
> > coolkey-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> > gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3
> > gpg-pubkey-b1981b68-4878de85
> > gpg-pubkey-a109b1ec-3f6e28d5
> > keyutils-libs-devel-1.2-3.fc9.i386
> > coolkey-devel-1.1.0-7.fc10.i386
> > gpg-pubkey-0b86274e-48b5dd6f
> > gpg-pubkey-f6777c67-45e5b1b9
> > [root laptop ~]# rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms
> > error: RPM-GPG-KEY.atrpms: import read failed(-1).
> > [root laptop ~]# 
> 
> To see the details for the gpg keys you have imported to the rpm
> database, this might be more useful:
> 
> rpm -qa --qf '%{N}-%{V}-%{R}\t%{summary}\n' gpg-pubkey
> 
> It appears that you already have the Fedora 10 key imported.  Can you
> install any other packages, or do you get an error there as well?  If
> so, you might have some problem with your rpm database.  Right now,
> it's hard for me to guess what might be wrong.
> 
>  This would be gpg-pubkey-4ebfc273-48b5dbf3, in the rpm -qa output
> 
> -- 
> Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> A good scapegoat is almost as good as a solution.
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:31:19 -0500
> From: lanas <lanas securenet net>
> Subject: Re: F10: Unrequested automatic installation ::rant
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <20081205223119 77e329a0 mistral stie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Le Sat, 6 Dec 2008 03:04:10 +0000,
> dexter <dex mbox googlemail com> a crit :
> 
> > 2008/12/5 lanas <lanas securenet net>:
> > > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:56:00 -0500,
> > > Robert Locke <lists ralii com> wrote :
> > >
> > >> This morning after booting and logging in, a little bubble opened
> > >> in the lower right hand corner that said some updates were
> > >> complete.  I had not requested any updates.  Previous updates had
> > >> all been done by me typing "yum update" in a gnome-terminal.
> > >
> > > OK.  Microsoft gave $500 millions to Novell for SuSE.  How much did
> > > they gave to Red Hat, do I ask cynically ?
> > >
> > > Or worse, is this the result of Windows programmers moving to work
> > > on Linux bringing along their great ideas ?
> > >
> > > If it goes on like that in 3 years from now, major Linux distros
> > > will have too many similarities with Windows, and will share the
> > > Windows problems of today.  All that's left is to remove that darn
> > > root account or better (!), have users always with root privileges.
> > >
> > > But since Linux is what it is, there'll be hope in 'rebel',
> > > rock-solid alternative distros  that do not push by default
> > > unwanted system behaviours to users and stick to proven basics.
> > > And that doesn't exclude compiz.
> > >
> > > I'm suprised this packagekit-whatever default behaviour went into
> > > production w/o anyone raising a red light.  Even if it's a bug.
> > > truly surprising.
> > >
> > > And how does it update the system exactly w/o root account ?  Or
> > > does this GUI thing runs always as root with access to both the
> > > system and the internet w/o users knowing it ?
> > >
> > > My rant.
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > 
> > These people need to here this:
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00431.html
> 
> Then, to the question that perhaps a dialog box would improve things, a
> Fedora guy replied:
> 
> "What would you want the dialog box to say?"
> 
> I have a few things in mind, but to write these I would have to leave
> the range of alphanumeirc keys.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 23:32:35 +1930
> From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <pocallaghan gmail com>
> Subject: Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<96da45630812052002u6a4f1189wfb14bcef89473af2 mail gmail com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Matthew Saltzman <mjs clemson edu> wrote:
> > In F10, Evolution's filtering of incoming mail takes forever--much
> > longer (according to my impression) than in F8.  In addition, I
> > frequently see errors related to checking for junk mail along the lines
> > of: Pipe to spamassassin failed.  The same thing happens if I use
> > bogofilter in place of spamassassin.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this behavior?  Any suggestions for
> > fixes/workarounds?
> >
> > (I use the Exchange connector, so please don't suggest another mail
> > client.)
> 
> I'm not seeing this, but I don't use Exchange. (though I do see
> problems with virtual folders, e.g. the unread counts are often
> wrong). Evo 2.24 has new indexing code which uses SQLite, and some
> people seem to be having trouble with it. You might want to file a bug
> at http://bugzilla.gnome.org.
> 
> poc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:49:36 +0530
> From: "Steve Repo" <scmuser gmail com>
> Subject: Re: Boardcom bcm2046 bluetooth problem
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<29815d590812052019t6f2daee7wd00838ec238cc5df mail gmail com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Demeter Tibor <tdemeter net-working hu> wrote:
> > Hi All !
> >
> > I have a Dell Studio 1535 notebook and a built-in Broadcom bcm2046
> > bluetooth chipset. I installed to this machine a F10, but the bluetooth
> > device is cannot work. I see whit lsusb, but the kernel is not detect
> > for this a suitable driver.
> > I read a solution,this device is supported the kernel, but i need
> > reloading the hci_usb module with a "reset=1" parameter, but this driver
> > is not a module  in the official f10 kernel. This driver is  linked
> > statical to the main kernel image.
> > Can i modify this parameter whitout rebuilding the kernel?
> >
> 
> I'm not sure how that will be done for a driver that is built-in to the kernel.
> 
> However, this issue is known and fixed upstream i think.
> http://marc.info/?l=linux-bluetooth&m=122804122705386&w=2
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:34:34 -0500
> From: Matthew Saltzman <mjs clemson edu>
> Subject: Re: F10 Evo filtering unbearably slow
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <1228538074 8891 189 camel valkyrie localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 19:05 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:52:35 -0500
> > Matthew Saltzman <mjs clemson edu> wrote:
> > 
> > > Anyone else seeing this behavior?  Any suggestions for
> > > fixes/workarounds?
> > 
> > If you are really totally wired to evolution and exchange
> > connector, my only advice is to setup a Windows virtual machine
> > where you can run outlook just long enough to setup the
> > exchange server-side filtering rules, then turn off filtering
> > in evolution since the sxchange server will have done it
> > for you. 
> 
> Server-side filtering would be great.  I will look into that.
> 
> > (Too bad no one has ever made a linux interface
> > to the filter rules, at least I don't know of one).
> > 
> > Sure you can't use imap to talk to exchange?
> 
> My memory of my experience with IMAP was even worse.  And I need the
> calendaring and contact lists.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> > 
> > 
> -- 
>                 Matthew Saltzman
> 
> Clemson University Math Sciences
> mjs AT clemson DOT edu
> http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:56:13 +0530
> From: "Rahul Tidke" <rahul excelize com>
> Subject: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
> To: <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <DE92260ACAC64883A0DA4E600B2A8DE5 EXLZ local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
> 
> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm
> 
> Any comments from Fedora community??
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rahul.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:02:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Fred Silsbee <fredsilsbee yahoo com>
> Subject: Re: root in FC 10
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <569168 37358 qm web59908 mail ac4 yahoo com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Todd Zullinger <tmz pobox com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Todd Zullinger <tmz pobox com>
> > Subject: Re: root in FC 10
> > To: fedora-list redhat com
> > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 12:04 AM
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>Disabling root login is a common security practice.
> > Sounds like it's
> > >>been disabled by default in F10. That's got to
> > be a good thing.
> > > 
> > > Apparently so, but then the install doesn't add
> > the one user it asks
> > > you to define to the sudoers file, and to fix that
> > requires a reboot
> > > to single mode.
> > 
> > No it doesn't.  You run "su -c visudo" and
> > add the user you want.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL:
> > www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > The best advice I can give is to ignore advice. Life is too
> > short to
> > be distracted by the opinions of others.
> >     -- Russell Edson
> > 
> > -- 
> > fedora-list mailing list
> > fedora-list redhat com
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> > Guidelines:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
> 
> disabling root access is what the root password is for
> 
> I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without problems
> 
> It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody.
> 
> I understand this disablement can be removed by doing something in pam.d or whatever it is.
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:46:58 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au>
> Subject: Re: (Off Topic ) Open Source: The Model Is Broken ??
> To: Rahul Tidke <rahul excelize com>, "Community assistance,
> 	encouragement,	and advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <1228540618 6849 3 camel suspishus lan cameratim com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 09:56 +0530, Rahul Tidke wrote:
> > http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/nov2008/tc20081130_276152.htm
> > 
> > Any comments from Fedora community??
> 
> That computer journalism is generally incompetent, way off the ball, way
> out of date, and completely beat up.  As a quick example, that article
> is about open source *business* model, not about open source.  Yet the
> title is completely bogus, in a crap attempt to stir the pot.
> 
> The only point of that article is to increase their readership, not to
> do anything else beneficial.  It's best ignored, like the painful bratty
> child in class who wants everyone to "look at me."
> 
> -- 
> [tim localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
> 
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:51:02 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au>
> Subject: Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <1228540862 6849 7 camel suspishus lan cameratim com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Patrick O'Callaghan:
> >> Turntables are also available. Ironically, a lot of these actually
> >> come with Audacity even though they're marketed for Windows.
> 
> Mikkel L. Ellertson:
> > For example:
> > http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=TTUSB-PB-R&cpc=SCH
> 
> I'd be very surprised if any of those plastic turntables were anything
> but utter crap.  But then they're aimed at the MP3/iPod users, where
> audio quality is the least thing on their mind...
> 
> -- 
> [tim localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
> 
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:59:53 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au>
> Subject: Re: Analog-to-Digital Audio:
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
> Message-ID: <1228541393 6849 17 camel suspishus lan cameratim com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 15:31 -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote:
> > I am in need of a way to process an analog stereo input device
> > to digital.
> >       
> > I basically have old cassettes and reel-to-reels that I would
> > like to convert to digital.
> 
> I've found Audacity to be one of the better choices, as you have fairly
> real time VU meters.  That allows you to capture at the best signal
> level, in the first place (not too quiet that you lots of noise, and not
> too loud that you have distortion).  Though, working in audio/video
> production, and having other gear to hand, I opted for running the
> player through a mixer with really good metering, after making some test
> recordings to work out what were the right levels between equipment.
> 
> Another issue is hum and noise.  Computers are none-too-quiet, and earth
> loops between your computer and audio equipment are going to cause
> problems.  If your audio equipment is un-earthed, that won't be an
> issue.  If you get hum loops, then some decent audio transformers
> between them will be the easiest solution.
> 
> Resist the urge to attempt to fix hum and noise problems digitally, it's
> much better to capture a good signal in the first place.  There are some
> problems that you just can't get rid of, or the attempt makes yet
> another mess out of the audio signal.
> 
> I found the best way of dealing with audio sources with different
> sections was to caption the source without any pauses in your capture,
> then carve it into the appropriate sections on the computer.  Audacity's
> fade-in & fade-out filters make it easy to make the hiss neatly
> disappear between tracks, so it doesn't go "click" between tracks on CD
> recorders and/or players that insist on badly muting between tracks.
> 
> -- 
> [tim localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.i686
> 
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:36:43 -0500
> From: Todd Zullinger <tmz pobox com>
> Subject: Re: root in FC 10
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Message-ID: <20081206053643 GS20204 inocybe teonanacatl org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Fred Silsbee wrote:
> > disabling root access is what the root password is for
> 
> Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here.  Root access has not been
> disabled.  What is disabled by default is logging in via GDM as root.
> You can still use "su -c 'command'" just fine.  That is a far better
> method than logging in as root and running a full desktop session.
> 
> > I've been logging into root for 11.5 tears on Linux alone without
> > problems
> 
> Yes, it is a problem.  The principle of running with the least
> privilege needed is a good one.  It is one of the reasons that a *nix
> system has far less security problems than a Windows system.
> 
> You are free to toss that advantage out the window if you like, but
> it's not in any way a good habit to get into.
> 
> > It is dumb to make it impossible for everybody.
> 
> I strongly disagree with you.  First, it is not impossible.  It is
> simply disabled by default.  I believe it is a sensible default.  You
> should not need to login to a full desktop session as root.  The
> graphical admin tools in Fedora should all be able to prompt you for
> the root password as needed when run from a normal user account.
> Command line applications can be run as root using su or sudo, as they
> have been for years.
> 
> Further, those who really think they need to run as root all the time
> should be perfectly able to change the default.  If they are not
> capable of that, they should question whether running with superuser
> privileges is a good idea.
> 
> > I understand this disablement can be removed by doing something in
> > pam.d or whatever it is.
> 
> Sure, you turn the safety off on the gun and aim it at your foot if
> you like.  But it is not a recommended or supported action. ;)
> 
> -- 
> Todd        OpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I figure that if God actually does exist, He's big enough to
> understand an honest difference of opinion.
>     -- Isaac Asimov
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:10:36 +1030
> From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au>
> Subject: Re: root in FC 10
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,	and advice for using
> 	Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
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> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 11:56 -0500, homburg tips-Q com wrote:
> > Again, I am unable to appreciate a great deal of difference between
> > logging in as root and using su providing that you are only logging in
> > as root to do system configuration and maintenance. 
> 
> The significant difference between them is that when you su from a
> normal user, system disasters tend to be the fault of that user doing
> something stupid.  Compared to logging in graphically as root leaves you
> much more open to security flaws in the graphical systems doing much
> more than you were doing.  Particularly as all of them now have root
> power, rather than just the ones you'd fired off through the root
> terminal you'd su'd in.
> 
> Newbies tend to paint themselves into a corner when they log in
> (graphically) as root, as they create files and settings that only root
> can use.  If they, later, try logging in as themselves, they find that
> their files are badly accessible, and anything they configured was only
> configured in the root account, and they have to go through that all
> again in their own account, or they just keep on logging in as the root
> user because it's too difficult for them.
> 
> If they hadn't done that, they wouldn't have kept on banging their head
> against the wall.  Unlike Windows, it really is NOT necessary to be root
> to get ordinary things done, nor is it necessary for system
> administration.  Using su - or sudo in the terminal does completely make
> you the root user to administer things.  GUI configuration tools ask you
> to authenticate as root and then actually do run properly.  And, in
> general, the software is *properly* written to be used by the right
> users.  Anything that wrongly needs you to be root, instead of an
> ordinary user, is faulty, and does get seen to.
> 

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