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Folderview doesn't work with nvidia. Was prevent people from making mistakes?



On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 04:10 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > So I entered a bugzilla report on this issue and did a bit of background
> > research.   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473446  The
> > developer's response ?  They tagged the bug as UNFIXABLE.
> 
> Because that's what it is, the bug is in a proprietary driver we do not have
> the source for, there's no way we can fix anything in it.

So why are the developers writing software for hardware that doesn't
have a working driver ?

Does that sound production ready ?

And it isn't just that folderview runs slow.  In KDE4.1.3, it totally
freezes my UI. 

> Next time buy hardware with Free (as in speech) drivers.

And which laptop available high performance video card would that be ?

> > Do they create a mini application to help the end user tune their video
> > card to work properly ?  Nope.
> 
> How can we do this when the hardware is undocumented and the driver is
> proprietary?

The KDE FAQ states a few options that users have to tune their xorg.conf
files.  A simple app that added or removed those options from a GUI
would be greatly appreciated.   So would mention of this issue in the
F10 Release Notes.


> > Do they state that they have contacted NVidia and the issue is being
> > sorted out ?  Nope.
> 
> Why should we? It's up to you to contact NVidia (which is what we told you
> to do).

Again, is this a PRODUCTION READY strategy ?


> > Do they provide tips or a different version of folderview for people who
> > have video cards that don't support acceleration ?  Nope.
> 
> We provide a version of folderview which works with any graphics card with
> working drivers. If the driver is buggy, the driver needs to be fixed, not
> the folder view.

Leaving the end user screwed. 

> And it doesn't really use that much in terms of acceleration, as far as I
> know it's just basic XRender, not even OpenGL.
> 
> And there haven't actually been _any_ changes to the folderview applet
> between KDE 4.1.2 and 4.1.3, your regression must come from somewhere else
> (different version of the NVidia driver maybe?).

I'm an end user.  Should I have to look at code and regression stuff to
figure out what changed as to why folderview doesn't work. 

> > The user is left to figure things out for themselves.  Go manually play
> > around with your xorg.conf file.  Which has been the norm for nvidia
> > users since RH8 days, except that livna, now RPMFusion finally came to
> > the rescue recently.
> 
> That's because proprietary drivers are not, have never been and will never
> be supported in Fedora.

Yeah, but Fedora is responsible for shipping PRODUCTION READY stuff.
And if folderview doesn't work with nvidia hardware, I'd hardly call
that PRODUCTION READY.




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