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Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:00 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 00:41 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 freenet de> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 09:49 -0700, stan wrote:
>> >> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > This is not what Fedora once was meat to be.
>> >>
>> >> Please, let's have some perspective here.  Fedora becomes
>> >> what the people doing the work want Fedora to become.
>> > No, Fedora became what people made it.
>> >
>> > My impression is, Fedora once had been a nice "leading edge distro",
>> > now it's essentially a public testing ground, containing the "beyond
>> > bleeding edge".
>> Hmm. I guess this is where we disagree. You think that this is a bad
>> thing. I think it is not. Following your logic, based on your
>> assessment, Fedora has become what it is out of a sort of evolution.
> Agreed, but consider, evolution is a continuous process and we all are
> part of it.

Quite agreed. I don't think you will find many resistant to change.
What you will find, is people resistant to doing things just how other
people would like it "just because". You have to have a really
convincing argument or be willing to make the change yourself. Of
course, that is not idea, but it does seem to be the reality of the

I mean (as an example) I would like to see Fedora shift focus to Qt
and KDE, but that isn't going to happen, not because there are rules
against, just because there is no one to push the work necessary for
that, and I am not yet capable of it myself.

>>  I have no problem with this. I really don't mind it.
> I have. Fedora has reached a point of immaturity/lack of stability, I am
> having real problems in finding it suitable for my purposes, i.e. the
> basis of my motivation to participate in Fedora is gradually breaking
> away.

That is quite unfortunate, and I don't have a simple suggestion to
this myself. The only real suggestion I have is to build a better
infrastructure around testing and testers. Build a more efficient way
to get stuff tested before it hits the stable repos.

>>  I actually quite like it.
> Well, my hope is, Fedora 10, like it's predecessors, will reach a
> "usable" shape several weeks/months after its initial releases.
> ATM, the sad truth is, I would have to lie when recommending Fedora 10
> to anybody.
> Ralf
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