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Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.

Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 09:49 -0700, stan wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:

but you don't want to do the work to get it there. In other words, you want to direct the work of those who do the work. Hey, you have a great future in management waiting for you. :-)
Pardon, but you probably can relate why I find your tone offensive.

Actually, I can't. I was offering what I consider to be an honest statement of the situation. It wasn't meant to be offensive. Just to offer a differenct perspective on the issue. Perhaps you have a negative connotation for managers. Any enterprise beyond a certain complexity requires managers. They coordinate the moving parts. They have a bad rap because most of them are mediocre. That doesn't make the manager unnecessary or belittle their contribution. Management is essential and the skill to be a good manager is rare.

Now, it is good that you care enough about Fedora to offer suggestions, but if you don't help implement those suggestions you shouldn't be offended or angry if they aren't followed.
What do you want me to do? To get involved into SELinux, NetworkManager,
PulseAudio, gnome-session, evolution, ... just to mention a few of the
packages which I consider to be prematurely integrated into Fedora?

If you have the ability and inclination, certainly get involved in a package. But it is not the packages that drive fedora, it is the packagers. They are the de facto managers of this system because they decide what it will consist of. If you want to change things, that is the place to apply yourself. Become a packager, or just attend the meetings / conversations that decide the direction fedora will take and contribute. Turn your dissatisfaction into impetus for change. You are already doing that by complaining here, but it would be more effective to do it as part of the organization.

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