RPM Fusion needs help/RPM Fusion only is as good as its contributors make it (was: Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9)

Kam Leo kam.leo at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 06:53:41 UTC 2008


On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora at leemhuis.info> wrote:
> On 17.12.2008 00:55, Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Nigel Henry
>> <cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr> wrote:
>>
>> (Note: My only complaint
>>
>> regarding RPMFusion is that the developers have yum blnders on when
>> they created their install rpm. They negilected to provide for smart
>> and apt.)
>
> RPM Fusion is a community project open to everyone. Hence if you want that
> project to do something you can either
>
> (1) complain and hope that the right people hear it and do something do fix
> it (which often, but not always works and sometimes takes a long time until
> you get the outcome)
>
> (2) do it yourself/help other with it
>
> For smart complaining and waiting might be enough, because people work on
> is; but if you help it might get realized faster:
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
>
> Regarding apt: I guess none of the current RPM Fusion contributers use it,
> hence nobody worked on that. Are you interested? Then tell us what we need
> to do (or even better: provide patches) and help testing the outcome.
>
> Yes, I'm well aware that this mail sounds like "help or shut up" -- but it's
> really not meant like one. You are free to complain as much as you want and
> criticism is good (¹). Hence I don't want to stop or discourage you with
> this mail. I just want people to understand how things work -- e.g. it's
> basically "Only things that somebody is interested in get realized in
> community project; nearly nobody wants to do the boring things or things
> that are only useful for other people". This for apt afaics is the case:
> None of the RPM Fusion developers use it afaics, otherwise one would likely
> have worked on it. It's similar in many other areas of the project. There is
> a lot of room to improve the graphics drivers for example. And there are
> many "autoconfigure my Fedora for RPM Fusion, Livna, Flash, ..." apps out
> there -- it would be of benefit for everyone if one of the good ones gets
> into RPM Fusion as is used there by default.
>
> CU
> knurd
>
> (¹) there are a lot of things that could be better; but current RPM Fusion
> developers invest quite a lot of hours of work already and try their best;
> improving it requires more or more active people afaics, which are not easy
> to find

Here's a freebie: Borrow from Livna's install script. It already has
provisions for smart and apt.

P.S. I would have submitted the above as an RFE a week ago but the RPM
Fusion website layout overwhelmed me. It's too modern, too much low
contrast light blue on white, and required a login! Didn't find the
create account link until today.




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