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Re: PackageKit major annoyances



On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta gmail com> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mark <markg85 gmail com> wrote:
>> I don't know if i'm gonna put that effort in it. I don't like
>> packagekit that much
>
> if people don't make the effort, then it won't be changed.  You made
> the effort to write your original post. You made the effort to reply.
> If you are going to bother writing anything at all, the least I can do
> is take the time to make the effort to make sure you are writing to
> the write place to have an impact.

My impact attempts in packages (nautilus with the thumbnails and a few
others) have till this day gone without any result.
So forgive me for not thinking that i'm making any impact at all.. not
even a small dent.
>
>> It's in the spec file defined as "Name: <<the name>>"
> packagename-version-release.arch   packagename is <<the name>>  the
> information is there its just not the bolded part.
>> I see 2 identical names and descriptions just a different architecture
> 64bit system. They are not duplicates. How does PK know if you want
> the 32bit or the 64bit version of a package?

well.. i have the 64 bit os so install and show the 64 bit packages
that are available in 64 bit. if not then show me 32 bit (with a
notice that 64 bit is not available)
>
>> I don't have anything called: "Authorizations" in the
>> System->Administration menu.
>
> my mistake  System->Preference->System->Authorizations

Found it and changed the policy. But i really don't like that i need
to change things like that. that just makes me think: turn it off.
(like i do with selinux as well because it gives me messages when i
play a flash video. But that's another topic (where i also tried to
make an impact which also failed)
>
>> I don't want nor need that kind of power. (nice to have though) the
>> default policies should just be right in a released "stable" product
>> (fedora 10) if they aren't then it's beta/rc and doesn't belong here,
>
> I don't think your personal preference nor mine gets to define the
> 'right' defaults.  Defaults are a matter of reasoned discussion and
> must balance several factors.  There is an argument to be made that
> the one time importing of a repository key into the rpm keyring is a
> sensitive enough action and infrequent enough to require an
> administrator's authorization as a default policy.
>
In my opinion the default policies should be set in a way that you can
do normal thing (using apps) without any messages. you get them when a
app is gonna change something on the system.
> -jef
>
Mark


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