is KDE dead - did Gnome win?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Timothy Murphy <gayleard at eircom.net> wrote:
>> MKas wrote:
>>
>>> I like KDE, but what I see:
>>>
>>> bash-3.2# yum remove *gnome*
>>
>> Surely you don't have to remove *gnome* in order to use KDE?
>
>
> True. But it makes the arguement that KDE in Fedora is vibrant more
> difficult when you can't have KDE without Gnome.
>
>  bluez                   i386    4.19-1.fc10                   installed  979 k
>  firefox                 i386    3.0.5-1.fc10                  installed   14 M
>  firstboot               i386    1.102-1.fc10                  installed  652 k
>  kdeutils                i386    6:4.1.3-1.fc10                installed  5.6 M
>  setroubleshoot          noarch  2.0.12-3.fc10                 installed  275 k
>  system-config-date      noarch  1.9.34-1.fc10                 installed  3.8 M
>  system-config-keyboard  noarch  1.2.15-4.fc10                 installed  189 k
>  system-config-network   noarch  1.5.93-2.fc10                 installed  1.8 M
>  system-config-printer   i386    1.0.12-2.fc10                 installed  1.6 M
>  system-config-samba     noarch  1.2.67-3.fc10                 installed  2.1 M
>  system-config-services  noarch  0.99.28-3.fc10                installed  1.5 M
>  xulrunner               i386    1.9.0.5-1.fc10                installed   22 M
>
> None of the above should need gnome libs to work. gtk libs, sure.. but
> not Gnome.
>
> One can argue the significance of this, but it makes the argument of
> KDE being a first class citizen more difficult.

We went a few rounds about this several months ago. I said at the time
that Fedora is a Gnome platform that also supports KDE, but that
seemed to bother some people (to be clear: I'm a KDE user myself).

However even if this is the case with Fedora, it doesn't mean that
Gnome has "won" in any meaningful sense. There are several popular
distros out there that one could call "KDE based but also supporting
Gnome", Suse being the most obvious example.

poc