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Re: Catch-22 : NO JOY

--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Beartooth <Beartooth swva net> wrote:

> From: Beartooth <Beartooth swva net>
> Subject: Re: Catch-22 : NO JOY
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 9:22 AM
> On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:57:46 -0600, Seann Clark wrote:
> 	[....]
> > Ok, Grub can be awesome, and it can be the suck. The
> best way, that
> > doesn't take a giant amount of effort, is to read
> the site first,
> > download and burn the iso, and run as you read it.
> > 
> > http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php
> > 
> > This has helped me with a lot of Grub related issues,
> including ones
> > that the  IRC room didn't seem to have a handle on
> (Where the F7 Rescue
> > ISO didn't see the LVM and grub set up, F8 saw it,
> but would toast the
> > F7 system) and using that I fixed the Grub issues I
> got (It wasn't as
> > pretty as Grub_ it was no o/s found at all issues, but
> same ballpark,
> > with stage 1 grub loading from what I have read on
> this).
> 	Well, I've now moused around that site, reading
> everything that 
> seemed even faintly hopeful. 
> 	I regret to say it was worse that I thought. The most I
> could do 
> anywhere was to read the words -- without getting the
> faintest glimmer 
> what they were about. The writer(s) could hardly take more
> savvy for 
> granted -- savvy I don't have and probably will never
> even approach.
> 	It happens that I began life as a pure mathematician (BA
> 1961); 
> and it was SOP among my contemporaries to skip courses --
> you got the 
> book on the material next in sequence after what you were
> taking, studied 
> it on your own, and got the prof's permission to skip a
> prerequisite by 
> showing him you already knew the stuff.
> 	Once I took a good look at a book two or three levels
> ahead; this 
> was like that -- a sheer blank wall.
> 	Seems to me I better try "upgrading" F10 to
> itself; and if that 
> doesn't do it, maybe yum will work in rescue ...
You skipped courses, I can say that I skipped homework(s), and thankfully I made it through only having to repeat about 3 courses in Mathematics.  I am now a teacher and I guess not liking homework myself I don't assign homework to my students.  I tell them that if they did not finish in classtime, then it is their fault and that it becomes "homefun", but not homework.  
> -- 
> Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
> Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
> -- 


What Marc recommended is that you download the iso


and burn it to a disk.  Boot your computer with it and it will let you boot your partitions that you have.  It works most if not all of the time, when you see GRUB__  it has happened to me and I have used it and/or the RipLinux another liveCD with that ability.  After I checked that everything was well(I could boot to my linux partition), then I booted with Fedora DVD and used rescue mode and used
# chroot /mnt/sysimage
# grub-install /dev/sda 
and it fixed things for me.  If you are afraid to do this, then use the trick/hack to let it upgrade itself and it should fix the booting issue by reinstalling grub.  I know that it is a pain, but as long as you get back your linux partition back and it works, then go right ahead and do it.




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