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Re: I HATE Evolution ! Thunderbird ?



On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 06:53 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 08:41 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 18:42 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:56 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote:
> > > > On Monday 09 June 2008 11:08:46 am linuxguy wrote:
> > > > > I've been using Evolution as my email client since RH8.  I hate it
> > > > > because it seems to get confused if one opens up an email or changes
> > > > > [snip!]
> > > > > Is anyone using Thunderbird like this ?  How does it compare ?  How hard
> > > > > is it to move over to it ?
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 1) I have had the same sort of problems (and more) with Evolution
> > > >     and I got tired of it.  The hard part is getting it all configured
> > > >     correctly. But even then, it is a resource hog as you mentioned,
> > > >     but what pissed me off mostly was bugs, crashes, and manually
> > > >     killing the processes when things go wrong with evo.
> > > > 
> > > > 2) I have tried Kmail and again, it has it's own set of problems,
> > > >     one involving threads, and it is SLOW depending on your MB.
> > > >     I am using an Intel dual-proc Core-Duo w/2GB ram and it is slow
> > > >     only because it needs to sync and process each email messages
> > > >     if you enable thread support.  It seems faster without threading
> > > >     enabled. By threading, I mean email threading.  I LOVE the versatility
> > > >     of configuring the Fonts for each gui panes.  Very nice.  This is my
> > > >     current email client. As with Thunderbird, when you click on a folder,
> > > >     it is at this point where synchronization to the server gets updated and
> > > >     you have to wait until it is finished - the CPU hits hard, slowing things
> > > >     down, so you are somewhat forced to wait before beginning the next
> > > >     step.  I wish that this process is done automatically, is niced, and
> > > >     happens transparently, but it is what it is.
> > > > 
> > > > 3) I have successfully configured and tried Thunderbird and I do like it
> > > >     but it is not as versatile/configurable as Kmail, imo.  I ran into trouble
> > > >     initially with configuring since it was 'different' than what I was used
> > > >     to and had to get used to the idea of 'expunge' and emtpying the 'trash',
> > > >     a two-step process.  With Kmail, I just have to empty the trash but then
> > > >     I set the configuration to empty the trash on exit.  Pretty minor.
> > > > 
> > > > In all three cases above, my biggest problem was connecting to M$ exchange
> > > > as my main email server - I had to configure exchange to ALLOW connections
> > > > but once I got through this correctly, it all worked well.
> > > > 
> > > > FWIW,
> > > ----
> > > FWIW - I use Evolution and have used it for years and I get A LOT of
> > > e-mail.
> > > 
> > > The only issue I have ever had with Evolution and slow/crashing was when
> > > I turned on 'junk mail filtering' as that tends to really drag it
> > > down...perhaps they've improved that aspect because I haven't used it
> > > for years.
> > > 
> > > If I was dealing with Exchange server, I surely would be using Evolution
> > > and the Exchange connector.
> > > 
> > > Craig
> > > 
> > I agree with Craig. I have never had the above problems with evolution.
> > But I havwe never tried to manage 150,000 e-mails locally.
> ----
> since it's IMAP, you're not really managing 150,000 local e-mails but
> rather it's only a local cache that is continually rebuilt.
> 
> I think the OP has to consider that the strategies that work well for
> Gmail probably are less effective when trying to attach to Gmail's mail
> repository via a local IMAP client and will strain any/all client
> applications.
> 
> The main issue that I was pointing out was that several versions ago
> (Fedora/Evolution), I would get some hanging due to using 'Junk Mail
> Filtering' on my IMAP mailbox which was mostly unnecessary as their are
> effective junk mail rules on my mail server and turning junk mail
> filtering off in Evolution solved it. 
> 
> Craig
> 
I agree junk mail filtering is a disaster.
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