FWIW, F8 is getting to be almost as unstable as F9 with the recent kernel updates to try to stay in lockstep with F9. I recently updated my kernel to the 2.6.25-4.10 version and I've had the system lockup ever since. At first I thought it was gnome updates that was causing it so I moved over to using xdm and fluxbox, but that hasn't fixed the lockups. It's at the point where I need to power off the box with the power button and then restart it to get the laptop back up. So beware kernel updates whether it's F8 or F9 at this time would be my advice and don't go to F9 until they get things straightened out. Too bad...I advocate the use of Linux over Windows to everybody I talk to, show them my laptop running Linux with my apps running, and always tell them how stable it is. I'll have to be careful with that now as it's not nearly as stable as it has been in the past.