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Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.



--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan gmail com> wrote:

> From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan gmail com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.
> To: fedora-list redhat com
> Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 10:49 PM
> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:16 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > 2) Being commercial doesn't mean not being
> free. RedHat
> > > and others make
> > > money from free software.
> > Red Hat does not charge for the software, they charge
> for the services
> > that they provide.  At least that is what I have been
> told many many
> > times.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > So now Firefox is not free anymore :(, is that what
> you are saying.
> 
> >  Opera is Free/but not opensource correct.  So Firefox
> is opensource
> > but not free? 
> 
> I'm afraid you've lost me completely. I
> don't understand how you can
> put this interpretation my comment.
> 
No you did not lose me, firefox did :(  I understand what is going on, Why did we not know ahead of time that they might pull this kind of trick.  I was told that we do not need to click anywhere to accept a license, that software provided is here for us, but we need not accept any license(s) imposed, 

This came out as soon as firefox 3.0 was released

http://fedoraproject.org/static/firefox/

which points to the license

http://fedoraproject.org/static/firefox/website-services-agreement.html

indirecty we have to accept or disable the "services".

The accompanying version of Mozilla Firefox utilizes website information services ("Services"), such as safe-browsing features, which are provided by the Mozilla Corporation and made available to you under additional terms. By using the Services, you consent to the terms of the referenced Mozilla Firefox Website Services Agreement. If you do not agree to these terms, do not use the Services and disable the Services in Edit > Preferences > Security and uncheck the options for both: "Tell me if the site I'm visiting is a suspected attack site" and "Tell me if the site I'm visiting is a suspected forgery".

We did not need to do this before.  This is all and it is simple, right.  But that does not mean that they do not have any trackware/spyware added?  Are there other things that we need to look out for?

I am just concerned now that somehow they are imposing their will on us and flexing their muscle.  

* To those that also use Ubuntu,  Did firefox do the same thing on Ubuntu? or did it just happen here?  I see this with new AVG 8.0 Free Edition that it adds a Toolbar and it tries to tell you which sites are safe/not safe.  That is the price to pay if you do not want to pay $$ to Avg to protect you, you can get the product, but you will have to help out in a way or another.  

Now the same can be said of firefox.  You can tell firefox, which sites are safe and which ones are not, google collects some data about which sites you visit and ..., this is the part that makes me concerned.  Otherwise, I would not have responded or asked in the first place.  We have to read carefully and the fine print that is also hard to read.   

Regards,

Antonio 

> 
> poc
> 
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