google mail and thunderbird -

[Jacques B.]

>
>  Firestarter indicated port 995 blocked so I opened both of them in the
>  attempt to get things working.
>
>  Curiously I am not seeing my own messages to the Fedora list.  I was
>  alerted to that by Carrol Grigsby who sent to my address.
I don't POP my messages but I do seem to recall that when I'd send a
new message to the list I wouldn't see it even though it hit the list.
 My replies get sorted in the gmail thread no problem.

You'll truly appreciate that part of gmail.  Threads in mailing lists
are much easier to follow in gmail online.  When you POP it then it's
however your mail application sorts it.  Check it out online and see
how easy it is to follow a thread from start to finish and how gmail
hides quoted text unless you click on "Show quoted text"

>
>  I noticed yesterday that I wasn't able to send a test message to myself
>  at gmail either, some sort of system limitation?
>

No.  When I set up someone with Thunderbird & POP access to their
gmail and then sent a message to themselves to test it and it worked
fine.

>  This change has been a real problem.  The Linux computer works with only
>  those two problems observed so far, but we have a Windows XP and an
>  Apple Mac that still have major problems which the ISP support is not
>  much help solving.  They are obviously overwhelmed with people demanding
>  assistance.  We will most likely spend the next week muddling through
>  ourselves!
>
>  Bob Goodwin
>


Jacques B.