****Re: Help revert from KDE4

[David Boles]

Craig White wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 23:43 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>> R. G. Newbury <newbury <at> mandamus.org> writes:
>>  >>> > >>HELP!...KDE 4 is a bloody disaster. At the moment, I have no 
>> KDE >>"Start"
>>  > >
>> (...)
>>  >> > >And the easiest way to downgrade is to reinstall Fedora 8 from 
>> scratch.
>>  >> > >Kevin Kofler
>>  > >
>>  > > And isn't that one HELL of an advert for stupidity too!.
>>  > >
>>  > > And yes, it is....thankfully I have my data separated but it still 
>> takes a
>>  > > chunk of time, and now I have to re-update and install a 
>> whack-o-crap...
>>  > >
>>
>>  >Well, you're a bit too nervous. You installed a development version,
>>  >guess you made a backup beforehand.
>>  >I'll spell it out, d-e-v-e-l-o-p-m-e-n-t version.
>>
>> I'm not nervous, I'm bloody mad. I did not *choose* to install a 
>> developement version. Fedora 8 added the 'fedora-developement' repo to 
>> yum.repos.d. That sis not happen in Fedora 7. THEN, Fedora 8 appears to 
>> have automagically done a global update, although I did not ask for 
>> that. I was install a particular package for mplayer and used the -y 
>> switch. Fedora decided it needed 75 packages updated. I wasn't really 
>> watching as I did not suspect that I would be updated into crap.
>>
>> Besides the utter stupidity of an install/upgrade methodology which is 
>> irreversable, KDE 4 is not yet ready for prime time.
>>
>> I have since been able to confirm that Fedora now includes the dev repo 
>> as it was created/installed by default on the re-install...and I now 
>> have another case of library hell underway and will have to nuke the 
>> beast and start again, again. Because if ONE important file gets updated 
>> you cannot revert it out without removing the 40 packages which depend 
>> on it.
>>
>> And no I didn't 'make a backup beforehand'. How could I reasonably make 
>> a backup of the entire OS? As it is, my data is on separate partitions. 
>> Nuking the / partition is no problem. The waste of time to reinstall is 
>> the problem.
> ----
> it's included but not enabled by default
> 
> enabled=0
> 
> each is clearly labeled this way.
> 
> But in reality, this shouldn't be that big of a deal to go to runlevel
> 3, remove KDE-4, disable development if you enabled it, and install kde
> all over again.
> 
> Craig


As Craig said here the development repo file is there but disabled. 
Actually it was there *before* you did your update. The updates that you 
saw were packages that changed from what you had installed from the DVD to 
what is current. Changes made since the disk iso was made.

Believe me. If you had updated from Fedora 8 to Rawhide, the development 
branch, the package count would have been more like 800-900 depending on 
what you had installed.  ;-)


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   David