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Re: New FU9 x86-32 install on spare box, how to switch to kde?



On Sunday 23 November 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I also note that during the install, I told it to do the network manually
>> at a fixed address because I do everything here behind an x86 install of
>> dd-wrt, with host files for local dns, with gateway and resolv.conf
>> pointed at the dd-wrt box.  On the reboot, it ignored all that, used dhcp
>> and was assigned a network address by dd-wrt that made it impossible to
>> find until I ran ifconfig to get its address.  Is that an artifact of NM?
>
>If you want to use static networking, simply turn off NetworkManager
>off by default using 'chkconfig'.  However, NetworkManager 0.7 seems
>to have no problem with static networking here.  I am using it on
>several Fedora 9 boxes at my house without a problem.

Good.  I'll give it another shot.

>> If so, can I remove nm from FU9 without its deps taking 2/3rds of the
>> system with it?
>
>There's no reason to remove it; that's what 'chkconfig' is for.
>
>> Plain old network has always worked how I want it to work here, and even
>> with my lappy on the road, I have always had to get a radio from the motel
>> and use the network & vim the configs to set it up as opposed to nm.  nm
>> has never been able to actually turn the radio on once its been turned
>> off, even after I've installed ndiswrapper, the drivers stolen from the
>> residual ntfs filesystem I left when I installed f8 on the lappy, and had
>> it working flawlessly here to an atheros card in the dd-wrt machine.  And
>> of course, when I get back home with the lappy, then it doesn't work here
>> anymore, and nm has left no trace of my old configs so I have to re-invent
>> that wheel again.  TBT, its a hell of a lot easier to plug in a cat5 and
>> forget the radio, so that is what I've been doing for the last 11 months. 
>> At the F8 level, nm is still a solution in search of a problem IMO.  Yeah,
>> I know, the Old Fart Syndrome at work, but I don't really feel that I
>> should be fixing something that wasn't broken in the first place.  Sigh...
>
>NetworkManager has been respecting system-wide configurations for some
>time now.... You've got about four or five issues combined in this
>post that make it kind of difficult to advise well.

But why did it ignore about 10 minutes work typing all that in during the 
install, and use dhcp instead?

>I've been using NetworkManager successfully for a couple of years now
>in a number of different laptops so I know it's not fundamentally
>broken.  You might want to try removing your user configurations
>(located in ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections, backing them up
>first!), setting your system's /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
>files to include 'NM_CONTROLLED=yes', and restart NM.

Ok, I'll go try that right now.

There is no such system tree in ~/.gconf for root.

But which file in /etc/sysconfig  is the real one?, F8 had it linked at least 
3 ways with hard links, and there seemed to be no way to actually make an 
edit 'stick'.  No errors on the save, but when the files were re-opened, the 
edits you just made weren't there.  I went around that loop at least 5 times 
before asking on the list.  And didn't get an answer then either other than 
it was hard-linked.

I have since re-installed on the lappy and haven't made any effort to make the 
wireless work.  It did work in xp the last time I had that booted.  It would 
be a plus if it did, that, after all, is what portables are for.

>I have no idea if using ndiswrapper complicates things, but it
>certainly doesn't make them easier.  I use wireless NICs that I know
>are supportable by the Linux kernel drivers for best results.

My lappy has a broadcom 4318 & the last I knew b43 couldn't even see it.

>HTH.

I'll go back down and see if I can fin the stuff in sysconfig, later.

Thanks Paul.


-- 
Cheers, Gene
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