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Re: kaddressbook + openldap



On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 22:12 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 13:44 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> >> I want to create a kaddressbook/kmail distribution list
> >> from my openldap address book,
> >> choosing those entries with "o=course-111".
> >> Does anyone know if this is possible?
> >> 
> >> I can see my LDAP address book from kaddressbook,
> >> and see that there is an option to add names
> >> to a distribution list.
> >> But as far as I can see one can only choose entries
> >> based on Name or Email Address -
> >> there does not seem to be any option for choosing
> >> eg by an o=Organisation attribute, as I want to do.
> >> [I do see the Organisation value listed if I give a Name.]
> >> 
> >> Incidentally, as far as I can see,
> >> if one creates a distribution list it is specific
> >> to a given machine.
> >> Is there any way of creating a system-wide distribution list?
> >> I guess if I could get the distribution list from my LDAP address list
> >> this would serve the purpose,
> >> but I wondered if there was a more direct way.
> 
> > Are you sure you want to do it this way? In my experience this kind of
> > list tends to wind up being a pain to administer because you're
> > basically doing everything from the mail client, which is the wrong
> > place for it (for one thing, it's difficult to share the list access
> > with anyone else, e.g a TA). If your institution supports it -- and I'd
> > be surprised if Trinity didn't -- you should use the standard mailing
> > list system they have, e.g. Mailman or whatever. It might take a little
> > more setup but you'll thank me in the end :-)
> 
> Well, the TCD Maths computer system certainly runs mailman.
> (Actually, I set it up.)
> 
> But I am thinking about my own system at home.
> I think my query is one that will become more significant,
> as more people set up multi-machine systems at home.
> Essentially, I would like to have all information
> on one "server", and access this information
> from various laptops.
> To this end, I've set up an openldap address book
> (much more difficult than I expected,
> as openldap people seem to speak a strange language).
> I'd like to use this address book for all purposes,
> eg as a phonebook as well as source for distribution lists.
> 
> I use dovecot IMAP to keep email on one machine,
> and basically would like to extend this to distribution lists.
> But kaddressbook (I am a KDE user) does not seem to have
> any facility for system-wide distribution lists.
> (Similarly, knode does not seem to have any facility
> to keep different machines "in sync".)
----
I'm not sure that kaddressbook is the issue but rather if you think
about it, LDAP doesn't really think in terms of distribution lists. 

You can create them however in LDAP...create an ou of groups and set the
members but kaddressbook would have to be taught what how to do all that
and to be honest, I've spent absolutely no time ever trying to get that
to work. I use a variety of other programs to provide 'groups' in LDAP. 

Address Books are about the contact. The collection of contacts is not a
concrete methodology.

Craig


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