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Re: Fedora 9 Issues:



You right as far as knowledge to an extent depending on the level or should I say platform you speak.  I have been in the business for 30 years.  I've worked on Honeywell, IBM, NAS, and others.  I am speaking of mainframe. 
 
As for this platform, I've played and toyed with them off/on at various levels.  At the point I am at, I have other things that also occupy my time.  I have to pick and choose at to what level I want to spend my spare time.  As I have other hobbies including amateur radio, boating, spending time with my wife and traveling. 
 
I had explored Linux sometime ago - about 10+ with Mandrake.  A few years ago, I had a order a new upgrade to a Linux product which included other distros (Fedora).  About the same time, Mandrake was becoming unsettled and I  dropped my interest in the product. 
 
Then, about 3 years ago, when that other operating system, started making more and more expensive and painful to keep up, I took up Linux again by dusting off Fedora.  I had run Fedora 7 for about a year with little issue and noticed that I had fallen behind with the upgrades. 
 
I took on the process to catch up just before the weekend.  First with Fedora 8.  I worked through the install issue with the install hanging during the resolving of the dependencies.  I applied a number of updates and decided to attempt to move to Fedora 9. 
 
The install went a bit smoother then Fedora 8.  But it was getting late and there were 906 packages to install.  I went to bed before it finished.  I woke to find that all seemed in order.
 
First thing I ran into after the install was that Xen hung (I think I mentioned prior that I put Xen on to see how it functioned but found that Fedora never really got it running). 
 
When I bypassed Xen during startup by hiting any other key and bringing me to the Grub load options, I noticed that the other options were for prior installs of Fedora 8.
 
It was at this point I ran into the problems you and others have been helping me with. 
 
Through your suggestions, I used the recovery to run yum and get the upgrades.  Once I applied enough of the upgrades (there were over 200 the first and 590+ the second), I was able to at least get into Gnome and bring up a terminal session (2) to finish.  This helped because I could list the upgrades in on terminal and use the second to apply.  If I would run into a problem, I would bypass that package and come back to it later.
 
To date, the only packages I have not applied updates to are the for the Network Manager.  That is because it has a conflict with a module previously loaded.  It is of a more current release then the one the package is attempting to load.
 
I've been rambling.  Thank you for the insight.
 
At this point I have identified all the files that I will need to back up with the exception of the Evolution folders where my calendar, email messages, memos, and tasks are.  I am sure I will find them and include them in my back up plans before reloading Fedora.
 
It sounds that you have been involved with Linux to quite an extent.  How stable is 10 to date? 
 
Should I give it some consideration or wait a bit longer?
 
 
-------------- Original message from Craig White <craigwhite azapple com>: --------------


> On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 21:44 +0000, vohnmaxwell bellsouth net wrote:
> >
> > Seeing that there seems to be a consensus building that I have an
> > installation issue, the prudent course of action would be to back up
> > my files - pictures, documents etc. and reload with a clean Fedora 9
> > package.
> >
> > Would you concur?
> ----
> I would concur with the caveat being that would the quickest, easiest
> and most effective way to solve the problem.
>
> It also would be the least instructive because upon doing so, you would
> never know what it was that went wrong...i.e., was it something that you
> did (probably), was it something wrong with the way you updated/upgraded
> (possibly), was it something with an anaconda or 'preupgrade' or yum
> type upgrade (maybe).
>
> When I started using Red Hat Linux (like RHL 5.0), I had to break it a
> number of times, reinstall and continually evaluate to push my knowledge
> and I can appreciate that most people don't have that same level of
> interest. You have to really want to understand it to figure out that it
> all makes sense and it all is eminently fixable and a wipe/reinstall
> shouldn't really be necessary (beyond just to save time).
>
> Judging by your previous e-mails you seem to possess some computer
> skills and some intellectual curiosity but you seemed to just gloss over
> questions that I had asked which might have enabled me to help out at
> which point, I sort of lost interest.
>
> Something to consider...this list is all volunteer and people have
> varying levels of skills and you may get requests for more info or
> suggestions from varying individuals with varying amounts of usefulness
> and eventually you either sort them out and plug into those who can help
> out or you simply get buried in the high volume of traffic.
>
> Craig
>
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