pulseaudio - WOW

[Bill Davidsen]

john wendel wrote:
> On 07/31/2009 08:46 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>> Uh, I don't use pulseaudio at all, just alsa, and I can run
>>> audacious,
>>> vlc and mplayer simultaneously and hear all of them. Of
>>> course, I can't
>>> set the volume of each individually, but why would I want
>>> to do this in
>>> the first place.
>>>
>>> Most recent (last 10 years) sound hardware has a hardware
>>> mixer. You
>>> don't need a software layer to make it work.
>>>
>>
>> But the developers give it to you for FREE*, even though you might not 
>> be interested in it? and it may not work for you, but will still get 
>> it whether you want to or not?  Nah, I am just answering for the FUN 
>> OF IT :)
>> hope no one is offended, just trying to have a bit of fun here!
>>
>> BTW,
>> I don't know why but *it seems to me* that Fedora will jump to kernel 
>> 2.6.31 as soon as it is released.  Just yesterday 2.6.30.4 was 
>> released and I have it installed learning the patching process and 
>> applying it.  Why do I believe that Fedora will jump to 2.6.31?, since 
>> on rawhide 2.6.31.rc kernels are being run, and also that Fedora 
>> skipped 2.6.28 kernels altogether and jumped to 2.6.29.X kernels :)
>>
>> I apologize in advance for the (BTW), but since I know that John runs 
>> latest kernels and I am kind of following this trend.  It does feel 
>> strange not to be running an official Fedora kernel, but Fedora is 
>> staying behind, for [1], [2], [3]? reasons.  Also while on this topic, 
>> will Fedora 12 move to gcc 4.5 snapshots since gcc has been bumped to 
>> 4.4.1?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> [1] the hack that defeated selinux and other security problems with 
>> null pointers
>> [2] too many features are present in 2.6.30 that might break systems 
>> so developers are playing it safe
>> [3] will jump to 2.6.31 kernels because those are being tested via 
>> rawhide and new features introduced that it would be safe to jump this 
>> way?
> 
> 
> I was just expressing some irritation at pulseaudio. Remember how bad 
> network manager was when it was first released? I expect that pulseaudio 
> will eventually turn into a first class audio system, it just needs some 
> more work.
> 
What do you mean "was" bad? Is there some secret version of NM which works 
reliably for cases other than one user logging in to get a connection, and 
always using the one AP in the area? Without doing complex things like suspending?

> I don't expect that F11 will get a 2.6.31 kernel, do you?  Of course, 
> nothing should stop anyone from installing it themselves, I know I will. 
> I don't run the latest 2.6.31rc kernels, because I do need to use my 
> computer (for something other than kernel testing).
> 
I would not be surprised to see F10 get 2.6.31, if even half of the things being 
said about better video drivers is true. I don't mind -rc kernels, that's what 
KVM and the extra 4GB of RAM I didn't really need are for!

> Of course, F12 will have 2.6.31 so it makes sense for it to be in 
> rawhide now.
> 

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