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Re: F10 rpm of grub2 completely broken

On Monday 14 December 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:11:25 -0500, Gene wrote:
>> On Monday 14 December 2009, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> >On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:04:19 -0500, Gene wrote:
>> >> >> I did have F12 installed, 64 bit version, but it was (pick a number
>> >> >> * 10) slower than the 32 bit F10 install.
>> >> >
>> >> >Based on what measurements? What tools did you use to determine that
>> >> > it was slower?
>> >>
>> >> click on a window close button, pick up empty coffee cup & walk to
>> >> kitchen & refill it, get back to viewing the monitor in about a minute
>> >> and another 30 seconds goes by before the window closes.  That is slow
>> >> by any definition.
>> >
>> >More importantly, this doesn't sound normal by any definition. What you
>> >describe is not supposed to be like that, not when comparing 32-bit F10
>> >with 64-bit F12 and not either when taking into account any 3rd party
>> >video drivers. It should be rather obvious that you've run into some
>> >special problem.
>> I wish it was, but my posts to this list about it were ignored for a
>> week,
>Can't comment on those posts. Haven't read them. Can't find them in
>the archives when searching for "Gene Heskett".
>Several messages about F10, nothing about F11. Ranting about the
>openssl issue without any comment on the relevant bugzilla ticket
>that tracks the issue.
>No specific thread about Fedora 12 performance problems.
>A couple of replies to other threads. Is it in any of those replies?
>GRUB chainload config problems. Then the F10 grub2 bitching thread.
>Side-note about your "Booting sparkly new F12 install, error 13 from
>grub." thread.  The partitioning details are confusing, contradictory,
>inaccurate and incomplete. First impression is that you misconfigured the
>grub.conf completely. The post is long, but missing the most important
>step. To accurately collect the configuration details _prior to_ jumping
>to wild conclusions. I would have asked a couple of questions in thread
>thread, in particular because error 13 is explained in the manual.

It is? In what manual may I be so rude as to ask?

>> and generally so were the posts bitching about the grub2 rpm being
>> supplied, its broken in that it only searches the boot its booted from.
>What is the ticket number in bugzilla?

You can generate it, but I now have doubts there is any interest on the part 
of fedora to fix it.  Why?  cuz fixing it would destroy the vendor lock in 
that your version enforces.  And IMO, it really doesn't get any clearer than 

>You started one of your recent posts with "This should be bugzilla'd",
>but you didn't report the problem in bugzilla, did you?

Couldn't get it to take my pw.  It seems to have forgotten it yet again.  
Whats the pw expiry policy?
>I looked up http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/grub2 for the list of open
>tickets, and the "Report..." link there is a very convenient way to
>jump into bugzilla.
>> Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has
>> finally reached the quitting point.  You refuse to fix openssh, hoping
>> that would force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its
>> go pound sand.
>With all due respect, is that the best you have to offer? To bitch'n'moan
>and to demonstrate ignorance?

Ignorance?  Sorry, my troubleshooting skills with things electronic and 
coding for smaller cpus than linux runs on have kept me in housing, food and 
water for 75 years now, and I do tend to call a spade a spade when the clues 
point to it.  Sorta like Johnny Carson once said about if the shoe fits, wear 


Thanks Micheal.

Cheers, Gene
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