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Re: F10 rpm of grub2 completely broken



On Monday 14 December 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:26 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> > Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has
>>
>> finally
>>
>> > reached the quitting point.  You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that
>>
>> would
>>
>> > force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go
>>
>> pound sand.
>>
>> With all due respect, is that the best you have to offer? To
>> bitch'n'moan
>> and to demonstrate ignorance?
>>
>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-December/msg01145.html
>
>----
>You are talking about someone who runs gui as root,

Yup, its my machine & the constant denials of service as a user are a PIMA.

>builds tarballs as root,

That is the only way you can properly install amanda.  But in case you 
haven't noticed, amanda also will not build as root, only the install 
requires it.  This is something that an rpm _can't_ do correctly, at least 
the last time I checked.

>builds kernels from kernel.org for no apparent reason,

Only because it supports _my_ hardware better.  You have yet to ship a kernel 
that has the asus_atk0110 module in it to support a 3 year old asus 
motherboard.

>uses samba
>for networking Linux systems,

It works, whats not to like>?  I have over the years asked several question 
about NFS, which I gather you all prefer, but I have yet to make it work well 
enough that the error messages actually make sense & I'd know what to fix 
next.  For everyone else it apparently Just Works & the errors I have posted 
are rare enough no help that actually fixes it has been proffered here.

>complains that bugzilla is too difficult to bother with

I have to sign up and get a new passwd every time I visit the place, and it 
bitches that I'm already a user, so it won't let me in with the password I 
wrote down from the last session months ago, and I'm fresh out of both 
patience with the pw expiry and the urge to even waste a quarter to call 
somebody.  If we have to jump through those hoops to file a bz, then at least 
have the common courtesy to expire the user as well as the passwd so that we 
can sign up a clean account again when we do try.

>, cannot figure out how to build an rpm

How about a rpmchkconfig to test the spec file and suggest changes that will 
make it build _on this system_.  The current documentation is excessively 
verbose without touching half the questions a newbie to it has.

>and can not deal
>with chainloading w/ grub.

That I got figured out, what I was trying to chainload was an ext4, and old 
grub just throws up its hands.  Long since fixed I might add.

>I believe you have captured his essence.

And as is often the case Craig, the view down your nose is colored by the out 
of focus image in the bottom half of the view.

>Craig
>


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