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Re: F10 rpm of grub2 completely broken

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 15:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 14 December 2009, Craig White wrote:
> >On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:26 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >> > Your treatment of redhat/fedora users with over a decade of use has
> >>
> >> finally
> >>
> >> > reached the quitting point.  You refuse to fix openssh, hoping that
> >>
> >> would
> >>
> >> > force me to install F12, and when I do and have problems, its go
> >>
> >> pound sand.
> >>
> >> With all due respect, is that the best you have to offer? To
> >> bitch'n'moan
> >> and to demonstrate ignorance?
> >>
> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-December/msg01145.html
> >
> >----
> >You are talking about someone who runs gui as root,
> Yup, its my machine & the constant denials of service as a user are a PIMA.
> >builds tarballs as root,
> That is the only way you can properly install amanda.  But in case you 
> haven't noticed, amanda also will not build as root, only the install 
> requires it.  This is something that an rpm _can't_ do correctly, at least 
> the last time I checked.
> >builds kernels from kernel.org for no apparent reason,
> Only because it supports _my_ hardware better.  You have yet to ship a kernel 
> that has the asus_atk0110 module in it to support a 3 year old asus 
> motherboard.
> >uses samba
> >for networking Linux systems,
> It works, whats not to like>?  I have over the years asked several question 
> about NFS, which I gather you all prefer, but I have yet to make it work well 
> enough that the error messages actually make sense & I'd know what to fix 
> next.  For everyone else it apparently Just Works & the errors I have posted 
> are rare enough no help that actually fixes it has been proffered here.
> >complains that bugzilla is too difficult to bother with
> I have to sign up and get a new passwd every time I visit the place, and it 
> bitches that I'm already a user, so it won't let me in with the password I 
> wrote down from the last session months ago, and I'm fresh out of both 
> patience with the pw expiry and the urge to even waste a quarter to call 
> somebody.  If we have to jump through those hoops to file a bz, then at least 
> have the common courtesy to expire the user as well as the passwd so that we 
> can sign up a clean account again when we do try.
> >, cannot figure out how to build an rpm
> How about a rpmchkconfig to test the spec file and suggest changes that will 
> make it build _on this system_.  The current documentation is excessively 
> verbose without touching half the questions a newbie to it has.
> >and can not deal
> >with chainloading w/ grub.
> That I got figured out, what I was trying to chainload was an ext4, and old 
> grub just throws up its hands.  Long since fixed I might add.
> >I believe you have captured his essence.
> And as is often the case Craig, the view down your nose is colored by the out 
> of focus image in the bottom half of the view.
I think you have an excuse for everything you do but let me just say

- amanda packager has no problems building amanda rpm's for Fedora

- don't know anything about your specific asus motherboard but
  my suspicion is that you don't know what you are talking about.

- every else deals with bugzilla password rules without bitching and

- too much rpm documentation... that's too rich for words

This is a participatory system - you have the source code and you can
modify grub however you see fit. You can build openssl packages however
you see fit.

This is all about you.


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