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Re: Booting Fedora-12 from hard disk, again, again



On 12/23/2009 06:02 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
jackson byers wrote:

There's no actual restriction on just where the ISO image itself is, so
long as you can feed the full path to Anaconda by specifying the device
and directory on that device (see
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/s1-
begininstall-hd-x86.html
for details).

Agreed, and that is the best reference

I was looking again at this reference,
and I really don't think it is very good,
or likely to be helpful to someone trying to boot from hard disk.

In the first place, I would have thought that almost anyone doing this
would want to (or need to) avoid CDs or DVDs altogether,
by abstracting vmlinuz, initrd.img and the images directory
from the ISO file,
and adding a stanza to grub.conf to boot from these.

All those do is give you enough of a system to boot and run the installer. They do NOT include the items necessary to install Fedora.
For that you need the Packages directory.

There are no instructions for doing this, as far as I can see.
The implication seems to be that the user is running a Fedora CD or DVD,
and then wants to install from hard disk,
which seems bizarre to me.

Not at all.  CDs and DVDs are much slower than hard drives and are
subject to all the possible errors inherent with non-contact, removable
media (scratches, dirt, etc.).

If you can boot from CD or DVD, why not install that way?

Actually, the whole Installation Guide, while beautifully produced
and full of interesting information,
strikes me as more or less useless for anyone actually wanting
to install Fedora.
I get the impression the authors have never put themselves
in the position of a likely reader of the Guide,
who is almost certainly asking,
"I want to install Fedora. What should I do?"

The portions of the manual dealing with network or hard disk installs
are intended for more experienced users.  The vast majority of newbies
will simply burn the ISO image to a CD or DVD and boot that.  Anaconda
is pretty simple from there.

Even at that, a lot of newbies burn the actual ISO file to a disc
(ending up with a disc with one file on it), when they're supposed to
use the ISO file as a "disk image" to burn the disc.

If you can find a way to make computer software installation absolutely
foolproof, yet accessible to everyone regardless of skill level or
experience, then PATENT IT QUICKLY!  You'll make a mint!

"Where the hell's the 'any' key?  I've looked and looked and can't find
it!"
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