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On 02/07/2009 10:51 PM, Mike Chalmers wrote:
Neither can I wait for new programs or features, :-)!

My point is that instead of requiring you to install or do some kind
of a risky yum upgrade (as someone mentioned above, and most likely
the drivers you may have installed may have to be replaced) to get the

You can all rail against me, which I expected, but I was just trying
to make a point because I like Fedora!
I've run many distros. I think if you want a continuous stream and stay at the cutting edge, look into gentoo. I certainly would prefer a way for a smooth upgrade without going through the installer, but I understand the dynamics of the way things work as I've been in the Unix community for over 25 years. The issue comes down to a combination of kernel, drivers, libraries, utilities, and applications. This can provide quite a nightmare to figure out what plays with what. Microsoft's solution is that you have to buy the next release.

On the other side, upgrading between releases has become much, much better so that a fresh install is not necessary. When I upgraded from Fedora 9 to Fedora 10, I simply placed the isolinux kernel and initrd in my /boot and did an online upgrade. It worked so smoothly for me, I did the similar thing upgrading RHEL 4 to 5.2 on some servers at work (with RHEL 5.2 via NFS). It saved me having to pester the receptionist for keys to the computer room and some of the servers could not read the DVD media.

One more comment about the way Ubuntu is set up. When a new release is available, you are prompted to do an online upgrade. Again, Ubuntu is also on a 6-month cycle. As a person who currently runs both Ubuntu and Fedora 10 and RHEL 5.2, and who used to run SuSE, I currently prefer Fedora.

Jerry Feldman <gaf blu org>
Boston Linux and Unix
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