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Re: Feature Proposal: Rolling Updates (was Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!)



On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Michael Cronenworth <mike cchtml com> wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
> From: Mark Haney <mhaney ercbroadband org>
> To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
> <fedora-list redhat com>
> Date: 02/10/2009 03:21 PM
>
>>
>> Now, I'm done with this thread.
>>
>>
>
> OK, great. Maybe we can speak to you now.
>
> Firefox
> Yes, it's a beast for me, too. Fedora builds FF with Pango support. Try
> disabling Pango in the /usr/bin/firefox script and see if it makes any
> difference for you (sometimes it does for me). MOZ_DISABLE_PANGO
>
> Rolling Updates
> Think about this for a second. Rolling updates work -- if you have the
> infrastructure for it. Fedora was based on Red Hat. Red Hat was supporting a
> corporate mindset of version numbers on operating systems. The mindset you
> speak of is without version numbers. You can never slap a version number on
> a rolling update distribution.
>
> In reality, for rolling updates, you need a QA staff to make sure nothing
> breaks. For Gentoo, Debian, and friends, they rely on keeping "stable"
> levels of software that are often multiple versions behind upstream. Fedora
> doesn't want to wait that long (cue "bleeding-edge" mantra). However!!!
> Fedora is actively gaining a refined and better QA team and QA system.
>
> This brings me to my point:
> While Fedora gains new features, it also gains more flexibility. PackageKit
> and friends technically allow rolling update functionality in Fedora. This
> flexibility can also be seen on the Red Hat side with their "Satellite"
> software package. We [Fedora] can now provide updates of any multitude to
> people with or without Internet access. This is a HUGE step up from the
> Fedora 1 through Fedora 6 days.
>
> Before Fedora gets to Fedora 15, 16, 17, etc... I think you should be
> actively pushing for a rolling update feature. Every release bring it up
> with FESco. Start a blog, website, etc.
> http://www.fedora-rolling-updates.org/ or whatever fits your fancy.

That won't work and will purely be annoying. If you want rolling
releases, setup a SIG to do so. These guys have work to do. They don't
seem to have free time that can be shifted to whatever you want, just
because you want it. That's the whole point of having a community --
people need to do work to get work done. Walking with a sign saying
"give me food" is not as all as effecting of growing your own food or
going out and buying some.

-- 
Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin
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