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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 181



I think ill just go ahead and upgrade now

Jay
http://fatbikez.com

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before
     bootup continues (Craig White)
  2. Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine
     (Matthew Flaschen)
  3. Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem - (Steven W. Orr)
  4. Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key
     (Robert L Cochran)
  5. Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
     (Richard Shaw)
  6. Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine
     (Mogens Kjaer)
  7. Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10  (Reg Clemens)
  8. Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Frank Cox)
  9. Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Tim)
 10. Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
     (Michael Schwendt)
 11. Re: Morph software (Paul-Erik T?rr?nen)
 12. Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Michael Schwendt)
 13. Re: Morph software (Bryn M. Reeves)
 14. Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card (Gijs)
 15. Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card
     (Mogens Kjaer)
 16. Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card (Gijs)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:03:17 -0700
From: Craig White <craigwhite azapple com>
Subject: Re: Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before
       bootup continues
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1235354597 17875 13 camel lin-workstation azapple com>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 12:04 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 01:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Playing sound before your desktop session is started is simply not the
> > use case PulseAudio is designed for.
>
> On that note.  Having the login window trying to announce it's arrival,
> which prior versions used to do, at least, seems a bad idea.
>
> Likewise, I notice that Gnome rarely ever manages to play the sound file
> that it's supposed to as your session starts.  And, if it tries to play
> a sound as you log out, it starts and gets abruptly cut off.  That's
> another couple of things that aren't well implemented.
----
don't know about Gnome but in the latest updates on KDE, it is sort of
working like one would imagine it to work.

Craig



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:35:44 -0500
From: Matthew Flaschen <matthew flaschen gatech edu>
Subject: Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A20B80 3080605 gatech edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
> In KDE (system settings - regional and language) I have set the "DE"
> keyboard layout as well. Whenever I switch to "US" there, I immediatedly
> get the correct layout in the Windows guest, and switching to "DE" again
> in KDE brings back the strange layout in Win XP.

You didn't mention what your host architecture was.  man qemu mentions a
-k keyboard language option, but says, "This option is only needed where
it is not easy to get raw PC key‐codes (e.g. on Macs, with some X11
servers or with a VNC display). You don't normally need to use it on
PC/Linux or PC/Windows hosts."  You could try experimenting with that.

Matt Flaschen



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:00:16 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven W. Orr" <steveo syslang net>
Subject: Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem -
To: Fedora List <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <alpine LFD 2 00 0902222156440 4510 saturn syslang net>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sunday, Feb 22nd 2009 at 11:52 -0000, quoth Kevin Kofler:

=>Bob Goodwin wrote:
=>> Can anyone tell me why xmodmap and xkeycaps
=>> do not work in F-10 as they do in F-9?
=>
=>Because Fedora 10 switched to evdev as the default keyboard driver.

I'm not sure why you think it doesn't work. I'm one of those people,
increasingly rare, who grew up on a Sun keyboard, and I simply must have
my capslock and ctrl keys switched on a pc keyboard. I generated a file
for use by xmodmap using xkeycaps and then I added

518 > cat swapcaps.sh
#! /bin/bash
xmodmap .xmodmap-saturn.syslang.net
519 >

to my ~/.kde/Autostart

Works great.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:37:04 -0500
From: Robert L Cochran <cochranb speakeasy net>
Subject: Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A219E0 6010500 speakeasy net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Ed Greshko wrote:
> Todd Zullinger wrote:
>
>> The signed message Robert sent earlier in this thread has a bad
>> signature because something (most likely his mail client) word wrapped
>> the message after gpg had signed it.  I saved the message, unwrapped
>> the one long line and verified the signature.
>>
>>
> FWIW, I've seen problems in this area when "Use PGP/MIME" is *not*
> checked on sending.  In his case, Robert's message are sent without that
> being checked.
>
> I would also recommend that Enigmail 0.95.7 be used.
>
>
I guess I have some modernizing to do. I'm using an older version of
Thunderbird (2.0.0.14) and Engimail (0.95.2). Thanks for the heads up
about both these items.

Bob



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:54:47 -0600
From: Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 gmail com>
Subject: Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID:
       <373c76480902221954r2d7f6d26k3d74e2cb9166b5e4 mail gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Matthew Saltzman <mjs clemson edu> wrote:
> In my F10 installation, the gnome-scan utility, flegita, segfaults when
> it detects my scanner (attached to another machine on the network).
>
> I went to Bugzilla to file a bug, but there is no component for
> gnome-scanner or flegita.  What component should I use?
>
> Also, has anyone noticed that when one selects Fedora as the product in
> Bugzilla, the version numbers don't change from the initial version
> numbers associated with the default RHEL product?
> --
>                Matthew Saltzman

Well, I don't have much advice for gnome-scanner. I tried it once but
didn't like the interface. I've been very happy with xsane. It doesn't
look "pretty" or integrated, but it works quite well with my HP
Photosmart 5580.

Richard



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:58:17 +0100
From: Mogens Kjaer <mk crc dk>
Subject: Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A24909 3050700 crc dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
> This weekend I have successfully installed kvm and qemu, and Win XP is
> running in a virtual machine. A problem remains: Win XP installs with
> German locale (the default, as I used a German installation cd), but a
> strange keyboard layout results - some kind of qwertyu, it is not the US
> one which I know.

For F9 and F10, I had to patch kvm to get it to work with a Danish
keyboard.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=135381

This bug is 4½ years old...

Mogens


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700
From: Reg Clemens <reg dwf com>
Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Cc: reg fw dwf com
Message-ID: <200902230659 n1N6xxTc028916 deneb dwf com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


[[ trying to add a bug report ]]

Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I
always end up back a a web page that says

       Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification       Please select the
classification.
       Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My Votes |
Preferences | \
 Help | My Front page | Log out reg dwf com

then there is a box with

           All: Show all Products

       Red Hat: Red Hat Products
        Fedora: Fedora Products
         Other: Other Misellaneous Products

Then a box with

            Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...>

     Saved Searches: My Bugs

               Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit

There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting 'new' brings
you right
back to this form.  I have never been able to get beyond this point.

This is the point where I gave up...  I seem to be in a loop.
I tried turning off popups, to no avail.




--
                                       Reg.Clemens
                                       reg dwf com




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:15:23 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre sasktel net>
Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10
To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement,
       =09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora.  "   <fedora-list redhat com>
Cc: Reg Clemens <reg dwf com>, reg fw dwf com
Message-ID: <20090223011523 00167200 theatre sasktel net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I just logged into the bugzilla and navigated to the "enter a new bug" screen
for Fedora issues.  I took a screenshot of each step and have emailed them to
you.

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700
Reg Clemens wrote:

>
> [[ trying to add a bug report ]]
>
> Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I
> always end up back a a web page that says
>
>       Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification       Please select the
> classification.
>       Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My Votes |
> Preferences | \
>  Help | My Front page | Log out reg dwf com
>
> then there is a box with
>
>             All: Show all Products
>
>               Red Hat: Red Hat Products
>          Fedora: Fedora Products
>         Other: Other Misellaneous Products
>
> Then a box with
>
>            Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...>
>
>       Saved Searches: My Bugs
>
>               Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit
>
> There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting 'new' brings
> you right
> back to this form.  I have never been able to get beyond this point.
>
> This is the point where I gave up...  I seem to be in a loop.
> I tried turning off popups, to no avail.
>
>
>
>
> --
>                                         Reg.Clemens
>                                         reg dwf com
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:44:21 +1030
From: Tim <ignored_mailbox yahoo com au>
Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1235376861 4079 7 camel suspishus lan cameratim com>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:59 -0700, Reg Clemens wrote:
> then there is a box with
>
>             All: Show all Products
>         Red Hat: Red Hat Products
>          Fedora: Fedora Products
>           Other: Other Misellaneous Products
>
> Then a box with
>
>              Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...>
>       Saved Searches: My Bugs
>
>                 Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit
>
> There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting
> 'new' brings you right back to this form.

Having had a look at Bugzilla (it's changed since my last play), the
"new" link appears to reset the form so you can do a new query (not
intuitive, and lacking any mouse-hover popup-info about what it might
do).

To make a bugzilla entry, the list of products (as above) are links to
start making an entry:  The word "Fedora" to pick from a Fedora product,
with another page of sub-categories, and so on, and so forth.

It's not exactly intuitive that this is a menu to *pick* choices from,
as links, rather than just for you to read.  If the webpage hadn't
elected to remove the traditional underlining of links, it would have
been more obvious.

I'm rather tired of having to find the hidden links on websites, these
days, as they delight in making it un-obvious what's a link.
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030823


--
[tim localhost ~]$ uname -r
2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
read messages from the public lists.





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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:59:33 +0100
From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt gmail com>
Subject: Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <20090223105933 eebbecc8 mschwendt gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:58:37 -0500, Matthew wrote:

> In my F10 installation, the gnome-scan utility, flegita, segfaults when
> it detects my scanner (attached to another machine on the network).
>
> I went to Bugzilla to file a bug, but there is no component for
> gnome-scanner or flegita.  What component should I use?

The "Source RPM" package name: gnome-scan

Red Hat Bugzilla explains if you follow the guided bug entry page:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=Fedora



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:01:01 +0200 (EET)
From: Paul-Erik T?rr?nen <poltsi 777-team org>
Subject: Re: Morph software
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <45946 84 34 172 50 1235383261 squirrel poltsi fi>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

> I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for people looking
> for a

Better late than never:

http://poltsi.fi/Software/morphing_with_imagemagick.html

Poltsi



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:04:44 +0100
From: Michael Schwendt <mschwendt gmail com>
Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <20090223110444 1d93c800 mschwendt gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700, Reg wrote:

> [[ trying to add a bug report ]]
>
> Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I
> always end up back a a web page that says
>
>       Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification       Please select the
> classification.
>       Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My Votes |
> Preferences | \
>  Help | My Front page | Log out reg dwf com

Try out the direct "Report" link at:

 http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xterm

It takes you to a single form in bugzilla.redhat.com, and that works
for all packages in the Fedora package collection.



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:25:37 +0000
From: "Bryn M. Reeves" <bmr redhat com>
Subject: Re: Morph software
To: poltsi 777-team org, "Community assistance, encouragement,  and
       advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A279A1 7030208 redhat com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Paul-Erik Törrönen wrote:
>> I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for
>> people looking for a
>
> Better late than never:
>
> http://poltsi.fi/Software/morphing_with_imagemagick.html
>

As pointed out earlier in the thread, this isn't actually "morphing"
in the sense the original poster was looking for.

ImageMagick's morph switch just does superposition and interpolation
of images (cross-dissolve) - it doesn't attempt to warp the source and
target images to bring image features into alignment before
interpolating, so it is only useful for simple images that already
have close alignment.

Regards,
Bryn.



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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:39:55 +0100
From: Gijs <info boer-software-en-webservices nl>
Subject: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A27CFB 7070606 boer-software-en-webservices nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello List,

I'm having problems with "Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet
Controller (rev 05)". Most of the time it works ok, but sometimes the
connection just crashes. Now the last time I saw about 760 million
errors appearing on the interface. When I checked /var/log/messages, I
came across the following stacktrace:

NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out
------------[ cut here ]------------
WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:222 dev_watchdog+0x92/0xe3() (Not
tainted)
Modules linked in: appletalk it87 hwmon_vid fuse sunrpc ipt_REJECT
ipt_ULOG xt_limit ipt_LOG xt_tcpudp xt_state ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat
nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables
ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 dm_multipath snd_hda_intel
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device
snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer i2c_nforce2 snd_page_alloc
e1000 snd_hwdep i2c_core k8temp usb_storage snd parport_pc hwmon parport
forcedeth soundcore pcspkr floppy sg pata_amd dm_snapshot dm_zero
dm_mirror dm_log dm_mod pata_acpi ata_generic sata_nv libata sd_mod
scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded:
scsi_wait_scan]
Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.26.8-57.fc8 #1
 [<c0428892>] warn_on_slowpath+0x47/0x72
 [<c041f96d>] ? try_to_wake_up+0x1b3/0x1bd
 [<c041f982>] ? default_wake_function+0xb/0xd
 [<c0438d94>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0xf/0x33
 [<c041d786>] ? __wake_up_common+0x2f/0x5a
 [<c041f4f1>] ? __wake_up+0x31/0x3b
 [<c043633e>] ? insert_work+0x4a/0x50
 [<c04365f0>] ? __queue_work+0x28/0x2d
 [<c043664f>] ? queue_work+0x36/0x40
 [<c0436668>] ? schedule_work+0xf/0x11
 [<c05d0935>] dev_watchdog+0x92/0xe3
 [<c04306d6>] run_timer_softirq+0x124/0x18c
 [<c05d08a3>] ? dev_watchdog+0x0/0xe3
 [<c05d08a3>] ? dev_watchdog+0x0/0xe3
 [<c042cdcf>] __do_softirq+0x6d/0xdf
 [<c0406e5e>] do_softirq+0x6c/0xa9
 [<c042cd2f>] irq_exit+0x38/0x6b
 [<c041494c>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x6e/0x7e
 [<c040378d>] ? default_idle+0x0/0x58
 [<c0405654>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x28/0x30
 [<c040378d>] ? default_idle+0x0/0x58
 [<c0419653>] ? native_safe_halt+0x5/0x7
 [<c04037bd>] default_idle+0x30/0x58
 [<c04036cc>] cpu_idle+0xae/0xce
 [<c06217d6>] rest_init+0x4e/0x50
 =======================
---[ end trace 0c5cc5d9805576cc ]---
e1000: eth1: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow
Control: RX/TX
e1000: eth1: e1000_clean_tx_irq: Detected Tx Unit Hang
 Tx Queue             <0>
 TDH                  <4000fc>
 TDT                  <400054>
 next_to_use          <54>
 next_to_clean        <f3>
buffer_info[next_to_clean]
 time_stamp           <5822fb>
 next_to_watch        <f3>
 jiffies              <582d9d>
 next_to_watch.status <0>

I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else
have a similar problem with this type of card/module?

Regards, Gijs



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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:57:18 +0100
From: Mogens Kjaer <mk crc dk>
Subject: Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A2810E 6000001 crc dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Gijs wrote:
...
> I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else
> have a similar problem with this type of card/module?

I've had problems in the past with this. The NIC would fail to get
a link on gigabit network.

The solution was then to replace the e1000 driver with a newer one
from Intel's homepage (it was easy to compile and install).

I havn't seen problems in F10, so you might want to consider upgrading
the no longer supported F8.

Mogens

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Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:07:41 +0100
From: Gijs <info boer-software-en-webservices nl>
Subject: Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A2837D 3010104 boer-software-en-webservices nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Mogens Kjaer wrote:
> Gijs wrote:
> ...
>
>> I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else
>> have a similar problem with this type of card/module?
>>
>
> I've had problems in the past with this. The NIC would fail to get
> a link on gigabit network.
>
> The solution was then to replace the e1000 driver with a newer one
> from Intel's homepage (it was easy to compile and install).
>
> I havn't seen problems in F10, so you might want to consider upgrading
> the no longer supported F8.
>
> Mogens
>
>
Ok, thanks for your reply. If I have some sparetime I guess I'll have to
upgrade then. Needed to upgrade anyway but didn't really feel like it
untill now :)

Thanks again.

Regards, Gijs



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