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I was trying to install Fedora ..But I couldn;t ...It is showing some driver problem...like ""No Drives Found""
and I am using AMD Athlon 64 bit and Asus A8v.vm mother board with SIS chipset...
May i Know  Why its happening..

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Skype and video[Was:Webcam recommendations?] (John Horne)
  2. Re: Domino on Fedora (Nifty Fedora Mitch)
  3. Re: current state of ati graphics (Bill Davidsen)
  4. Re: Web cam recommendations? (Erik P. Olsen)
  5. Re: Web cam recommendations? (John Horne)
  6. Network Manager Only Allows 1 connection only (JohnMinson)
  7. Easiest Way To Move Thunderbird Mail Folders To Another
     Computer? (Robert L Cochran)
  8. Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem - (Kevin Kofler)
  9. Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
     (Kevin Kofler)
 10. No .gnupg Directory On Fedora 10 (Robert L Cochran)
 11. Re: Easiest Way To Move Thunderbird Mail Folders To Another
     Computer? (Kevin J. Cummings)
 12. Re: current state of ati graphics (Kevin Kofler)
 13. Re: Web cam recommendations? (Erik P. Olsen)
 14. Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data.
     Prioritize code) (phil)
 15. Re: Upgraded to F10,     (& Kjot disappeared) (Kevin Kofler)
 16. Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem - (Bob Goodwin)
 17. Re: kernel (Kevin Kofler)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:13:08 +0000
From: John Horne <john horne plymouth ac uk>
Subject: Re: Skype and video[Was:Webcam recommendations?]
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1235427188 3457 6 camel jhorne homelinux net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 22:54 +0100, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm using Skype 2.0.0.72 and I have a Logitech QuickCam for Notebooks,
> as reported by lsusb:
>
> idVendor           0x046d Logitech, Inc.
> idProduct          0x08dd QuickCam for Notebooks
> bcdDevice            1.00
>
> With this version of Skype, I'm able to see other people doing video
> conference (better quality with compiz disabled), but I can't get the
> webcam working. In Options->Video, the webcam is detected, but when I
> push the "Test" button, all I get is this:
>
> Starting the process...
> Skype Xv: Xv ports available: 4
> Skype XShm: XShm support enabled
> Skype Xv: Using Xv port 131
> <Here Skype closes and I get the command prompt again>
>
> Nothing catches my eye in the system log. I tried to install
> libv4l.i386 but it didn't make any difference.
>
> Any success cases? Any hints on how to solve this?
>
For just testing the webcam video I used the 'ucview' command (it's in
the ucview package). As mentioned in the old thread, I have a Logitech
webcam, on a PC not a notebook though, and the ucview command detects
the webcam fine, and displays what the webcam sees (basically me looking
at my monitor!).

I've been using skype from home to work using both audio and video. The
only problem I had was getting audio to work, one setting in skype
needed to be changed, then audio worked.

Skype package is: skype-2.0.0.72-fc5.i586



John.

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:22:58 -0800
From: Nifty Fedora Mitch <niftyfedora niftyegg com>
Subject: Re: Domino on Fedora
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <20090223222258 GA4585 compegg wr niftyegg com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 02:57:43PM +0000, James Wilkinson wrote:
> Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> > Local delivery can be done with procmail.
>
> Yes, but if the command expects to use /usr/sbin/sendmail to send the
> mail, and that command isn’t there…
>
> > Nothing has to listen on 25.
>
> It might help if Domino did…
>
> > Go with the documented solution and if needed pull sendmail back into the
> > system...   In some ways this should be very much the same as switching
> > from sendmail to postfix i.e.
> >
> >     Postfix is a Mail Transport Agent (MTA)
> >
> > A google or yahoo search of "domino MTA"
> > does find links that support my assertion
> > that Domino is a Mail Transoport Agent.
>
> You’re missing the point. Postfix provides ....
....
> Hope this helps,

Domino is moderatly expensive and it is well supported by
the vendor.   Put them to work....!

 http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/lotus/library/ls-Internet_messaging_with_the_SMTP_MTA/index.html

If yum/ rpm demand that you install postfix or sendmail pick one
and just "chkconfig $it off".

But seriously, Domino/Lotus has a rich support community
and while we can speculate on what it is and is not
the vendor has facts.  Put the vendor to work....



--
       T o m  M i t c h e l l
       Found me a new hat, now what?




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:30:50 -0500
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
Subject: Re: current state of ati graphics
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnv82q$g7k$1 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Ian Malone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card and for the past few
> iterations have gone with Nvida, mostly because they provided a
> working linux driver with 3D acceleration; most people I knew with ATI
> chipsets had problems with their drivers at one time or another (and
> for a long time only older cards were supported).  Since AMD have
> apparently released the specs needed to write an open driver for them
> I thought it might be worth supporting them this time around, but I'm
> not sure what the current state of ATI support looks like. I'd guess
> there has been long enough for an accelerated driver to make it into
> the kernel, but I see that there is also a recent release of their
> proprietary driver.  What are people's recent experiences with ATI?  I
> wouldn't be looking for the highest end card, just something that can
> happily run compiz and flash videos 1280x1024.  The nvidia I'm
> considering are around the 8500 / 9400 mark.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
With any non-FOSS driver you accept that if you have a problem there are a fair
percentage of developers who will not look at dump from a tainted kernel. The
most recent FC10 drivers seem to work reliably (that was NOT true with the
initial install), but are not accelerated. I believe my last look showed
radeondrmfb, and I considered flgrx but decided reliable was enough, I don't run
games or video benchmarks on my laptop, just boring work stuff, which is fast
enough. It will run flash 1280x800 without a problem.


--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen tmr com>
  "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:41:10 +0100
From: "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata gmail com>
Subject: Re: Web cam recommendations?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A32606 3010605 gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 23/02/09 23:08, John Horne wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 22:53 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>> On 23/02/09 22:41, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Erik P. Olsen <epodata gmail com> wrote:
>>>> On 23/02/09 14:34, Fernando Apesteguía wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>>> You could try another choice like Ekiga, although I'm afraid to say it
>>>>> doesn't reach the quality in video than Skype does (I can receive
>>>>> video with Skype)
>>>>>
>>>> What version of Skype do you have? The one I've got (version 2.0.0.72) does not
>>>> seem to have any video support at all.
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm gonna open a new thread instead of hijacking the subject of this one :)
>>>
>> I don't think I hijacked the subject. It is about webcam recommendation for
>> Skype and I don't believe that Skype for linux has video support, so AFAICT no
>> webcam can be recommended at all. Or am I totally wrong?
>>>> [snip]
> Totally wrong I would say. I've got a Logitech Quickcam pro 9000 on my
> F10 box. It has both video and audio - works fine with skype.

Thanks, but I can't find any newer version than 2.0.0.72 and I can't see how you
enable video on this version.

--
Erik.




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:24:43 +0000
From: John Horne <john horne plymouth ac uk>
Subject: Re: Web cam recommendations?
To: Fedora Mailing List <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <1235431483 3457 9 camel jhorne homelinux net>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 23:41 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>
> Thanks, but I can't find any newer version than 2.0.0.72 and I can't see how you
> enable video on this version.
>
The package I am running is skype-2.0.0.72-fc5.i586 (albeit on an F10
x86_64 box).

I don't think I had to enable it as such, skype automatically found the
webcam as a usb device. However, right-clicking on the skype icon and
selecting 'options' shows a 'Video Devices' section. Within there there
are tick-boxes to enable video, and select the video device.



John.

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E-mail: John Horne plymouth ac uk       Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:46:29 -0500
From: JohnMinson <john minson us army mil>
Subject: Network Manager Only Allows 1 connection only
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A33555 2090409 us army mil>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

all I want to do is add a second(static) ip (device alias 1) to my
interface in addition to the dhcp address all ready being procured .
I can find no combinations of 'Network Manager' settings that allows
this to happen .
If I plumb the interface manually after "Network Manager' is finished
initializing it works fine .
If I turn off NM I get this in the log
  "localhost nm-system-settings:    ifcfg-rh: Ignoring connection
'System eth0 ' and its device because NM_CONTROLLED was false."
  "localhost nm-system-settings:    ifcfg-rh: Ignoring connection
'System eth0:1' and its device because NM_CONTROLLED was false."

this should not be this difficult




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:58:23 -0500
From: Robert L Cochran <cochranb speakeasy net>
Subject: Easiest Way To Move Thunderbird Mail Folders To Another
       Computer?
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A3381F 5020708 speakeasy net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have a .thunderbird email client folder on a Fedora 7 x86_64 system
that I need to move to a Fedora 10 x86 system. It occurs to me that if I
move this, and then start thunderbird on the new system, I might have
trouble because of 64-bit code. Also trouble with updating Enigmail. I
want to be sure I can sign and encrypt email messages. Am I better off
just moving

.thunderbird/[salt].default/Mail/*
.thunderbird/[salt].default/abook.mab

What file(s) store the email account information?

Or, to make a long story short, can I just tar up all of .thunderbird
and not worry about conflicts on the 32-bit system?

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA







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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:58:49 +0100
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
Subject: Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem -
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnvd7p$t5u$4 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Bob Goodwin wrote:
> One indication that it does not work is that when I run /usr/bin/xmodmap
> -e 'keycode 116=degree' in F-9 the key to the right of the right ALT key
> produces a degree ° symbol.
>
> The same command in F-10 makes it useless, that same key does nothing
> and the cursor down arrow key  generates the degree symbol instead as
> well as no longer moving the cursor making it impossible to navigate
> though a file listing.

You're hardcoding a keycode number, but evdev uses different keycodes.

       Kevin Kofler



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:02:45 +0100
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
Subject: Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnvdf5$t5u$5 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Confirmed.
> That looks like a bug in the dynamic updating of the form fields.
> Changing "Classification" updates "Product" listbox, but "Version"
> and "Target" listboxes don't change.

It's not a bug, you have to click on "Refresh
Components/Versions/Milestones". They made it an explicit pushbutton
because having this done automatically was too slow, people did not
understand why their browser froze.

       Kevin Kofler



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:05:39 -0500
From: Robert L Cochran <cochranb speakeasy net>
Subject: No .gnupg Directory On Fedora 10
To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A339D3 7090308 speakeasy net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I just noticed that I do not yet have a .gnupg directory on my Fedora 10
system. I haven't tried to create a gpg keyring on it yet. I want to
migrate sensibly from a Fedora 7 system to a separate Fedora 10 system.
Can I go ahead and copy the .gnupg directory from the old system to the
new one? Or should I attempt to create a fresh .gnupg directory on the
Fedora 10 system and selectively copy elements of the .gnupg directory
from the old system?

Thanks

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:07:38 -0500
From: "Kevin J. Cummings" <cummings kjchome homeip net>
Subject: Re: Easiest Way To Move Thunderbird Mail Folders To Another
       Computer?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A33A4A 8050301 kjchome homeip net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I have a .thunderbird email client folder on a Fedora 7 x86_64 system
> that I need to move to a Fedora 10 x86 system. It occurs to me that if I
> move this, and then start thunderbird on the new system, I might have
> trouble because of 64-bit code. Also trouble with updating Enigmail. I

There should be noting specific to 32-bit or 64-bit in your .thunderbird
directory.  I know, I upgraded an FC6.i386 system to F9.x86_64 and my
Thunderbird just plain continued to work.

> want to be sure I can sign and encrypt email messages. Am I better off
> just moving
>
> .thunderbird/[salt].default/Mail/*
> .thunderbird/[salt].default/abook.mab

You could just move the entire .thunderbird/[salt].default directory
lock stock and barrel (AFAIK).  Make sure you edit the
.thunderbird/profiles.ini file to properly reflect your default profile.

> What file(s) store the email account information?

They are all buried down in the profile directory structure.

> Or, to make a long story short, can I just tar up all of .thunderbird
> and not worry about conflicts on the 32-bit system?

That's my thought.  Good luck!

> Bob Cochran
> Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:10:11 +0100
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
Subject: Re: current state of ati graphics
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnvdt3$2j3$1 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Ian Malone wrote:
> Since AMD have apparently released the specs needed to write an open
> driver for them I thought it might be worth supporting them this time
> around, but I'm not sure what the current state of ATI support looks like.

For the Free Software drivers (i.e. NOT the proprietary fglrx):
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon

In short, r1xx up to r5xx series are now supported with 2D (XRender) and 3D
(OpenGL) acceleration. In marketing names, that's up to X1950 (rule of
thumb: if it doesn't have "HD" in it, it should be supported - the HD*
models (r6xx/r7xx) and the X2300 HD which appears to be some sort of hybrid
between the r5xx architecture and some r6xx or r7xx one are not supported).

       Kevin Kofler



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:10:59 +0100
From: "Erik P. Olsen" <epodata gmail com>
Subject: Re: Web cam recommendations?
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A33B13 4020207 gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 24/02/09 00:24, John Horne wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 23:41 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>> Thanks, but I can't find any newer version than 2.0.0.72 and I can't see how you
>> enable video on this version.
>>
> The package I am running is skype-2.0.0.72-fc5.i586 (albeit on an F10
> x86_64 box).
>
> I don't think I had to enable it as such, skype automatically found the
> webcam as a usb device. However, right-clicking on the skype icon and
> selecting 'options' shows a 'Video Devices' section. Within there there
> are tick-boxes to enable video, and select the video device.

Gosh, you are right. I don't know how I missed seeing that. Found my old webcam
and sure enough it worked right away. Thanks a lot for opening my eyes.

--
Erik.




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:14:17 +0000
From: phil <happyharrysco1 yahoo co uk>
Subject: Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data.
       Prioritize code)
To: Robin Laing drdc-rddc gc ca, "Community assistance, encouragement,
       and advice for using Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A33BD9 6040307 yahoo co uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Robin Laing wrote:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
>> http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What is you comment?
>>
>
> I will have to try this at home.  My home system is crawling and it
> could be related to some of these settings.  I would like to see other
> fine tuning settings.
>
> I cannot afford a new machine at this time.
>

acer use these settings as default on the aspire one in linpus (which is
based on fedora 8), though i think this was aimed more for the ssd
versions to increase the ssd lifetime more than speed up the user experience



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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:12:33 +0100
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
Subject: Re: Upgraded to F10,     (& Kjot disappeared)
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnve1h$2j3$2 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

DB wrote:
> According to the blurb, using preupgrade would mean that my system
> remained usable during the upgrade

You must have been mislead somehow. With preupgrade, the system remains
usable during the download phase, but not during the actual upgrade.

> So I now seem to have a working F10 system, so far, I've not discovered
> anything major to moan about.  However, I had just started using Kjot
> under F9, which seemed to be a useful gubbins..... and now in F10 it
> seems to have vanished.  Anyone know where kjot might be hidden (or how
> I can get the old version back into service)??

As Rex Dieter already replied, it's now in kdepim.

       Kevin Kofler



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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:15:25 -0500
From: Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin wildblue net>
Subject: Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem -
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,       and advice for using
       Fedora." <fedora-list redhat com>
Message-ID: <49A33C1D 6030201 gmail com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>> One indication that it does not work is that when I run /usr/bin/xmodmap
>> -e 'keycode 116=degree' in F-9 the key to the right of the right ALT key
>> produces a degree ° symbol.
>>
>> The same command in F-10 makes it useless, that same key does nothing
>> and the cursor down arrow key  generates the degree symbol instead as
>> well as no longer moving the cursor making it impossible to navigate
>> though a file listing.
>>
>
> You're hardcoding a keycode number, but evdev uses different keycodes.
>
>         Kevin Kofler
>
>
I can believe that!  Where can I find the correct codes?

If I can use those "Windows" keys and disable Caps Lock I will be satisfied.

Bob




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:17:08 +0100
From: Kevin Kofler <kevin kofler chello at>
Subject: Re: kernel
To: fedora-list redhat com
Message-ID: <gnvea4$2j3$3 ger gmane org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

"Stanisław T. Findeisen" wrote:
> Why doesn't Fedora use vanilla Linux kernel?

Because packages need to be patched to integrate with the rest of the
distribution and the kernel is no exception.

Because Fedora is about shipping new technologies which sometimes have to be
backported to stable releases and the kernel is no exception.

And to ask back: Why should it?

One of Fedora's goals is to stay close to upstream (and in fact some other
distributions have a lot more kernel patches than Fedora does), but that
doesn't mean we ship completely vanilla upstream software without regards
to things like system integration. If we just did that (and if it even
worked, which is not always the case), what would be the purpose of the
distribution?

       Kevin Kofler



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