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Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10



On Wednesday 07 January 2009 23:59:13 Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:46 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Craig White <craigwhite azapple com> 
wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:36 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Craig White <craigwhite azapple com> 
wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 16:40 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
> > >> >> I'm still waiting on someone to give me a good rational reason why
> > >> >> this change was made.  If I get one that makes sense, then I might
> > >> >> shut up about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the
> > >> >> wheel to no purpose.
> > >> >
> > >> > ----
> > >> > and that's been discussed on this list many, many, many times since
> > >> > I think it was Jim Wilkinson started playing with this concept of
> > >> > NetworkManager and userland.
> > >>
> > >> People who make comments like this have probably never tried to roam
> > >> around with a wifi connection.
> > >
> > > ----
> > > I don't see any bug reports with your e-mail address attached...
> >
> > I use pembo13 instead of pemboa for bug reports, pemboa is just for
> > mailing lists, same email provider.
>
> ----
> WPA supplicant sucks on all OS's  ;-(
> 
How odd, then, that this laptop running Mandriva and my EeePC running Xandros 
have no problem with it.
>
> > And I was referring to Mark Haney's comments.
>
> ----
> so was I originally...userland control is essential to the growth of
> Linux.
>
> The people who gripe about NM seem to always be the ones who are more
> than capable of becoming superuser so NM seems to be a barrier to them.
>
No.  Many of the people who gripe about NM are ones who have followed every 
instruction and advice given and still can't get the d****** thing to work.  
I'm sure it's wonderful when it does, but you can't stick your head in the 
sand and pretend that there are no problems.

Anne

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