On Wednesday 07 January 2009 23:59:13 Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:46 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Craig White <craigwhite azapple com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 17:36 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Craig White <craigwhite azapple com> wrote: > > >> > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 16:40 -0500, Mark Haney wrote: > > >> >> I'm still waiting on someone to give me a good rational reason why > > >> >> this change was made. If I get one that makes sense, then I might > > >> >> shut up about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the > > >> >> wheel to no purpose. > > >> > > > >> > ---- > > >> > and that's been discussed on this list many, many, many times since > > >> > I think it was Jim Wilkinson started playing with this concept of > > >> > NetworkManager and userland. > > >> > > >> People who make comments like this have probably never tried to roam > > >> around with a wifi connection. > > > > > > ---- > > > I don't see any bug reports with your e-mail address attached... > > > > I use pembo13 instead of pemboa for bug reports, pemboa is just for > > mailing lists, same email provider. > > ---- > WPA supplicant sucks on all OS's ;-( > How odd, then, that this laptop running Mandriva and my EeePC running Xandros have no problem with it. > > > And I was referring to Mark Haney's comments. > > ---- > so was I originally...userland control is essential to the growth of > Linux. > > The people who gripe about NM seem to always be the ones who are more > than capable of becoming superuser so NM seems to be a barrier to them. > No. Many of the people who gripe about NM are ones who have followed every instruction and advice given and still can't get the d****** thing to work. I'm sure it's wonderful when it does, but you can't stick your head in the sand and pretend that there are no problems. Anne
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